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From: bill@utastro.UUCP (William H. Jefferys)
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Subject: Re: Funerals Instead
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Date: Sun, 24-Mar-85 10:52:56 EST
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> These arguments about Genesis should be in net.religion, unless someone
> really feels they need them to bolster their stand on creationist issues.
> I think most of the creationists believe their arguments do not require
> Genesis. Lets keep the discussion there, where faith is not a requirement.
 
I disagree.  I've read a lot of Creationist writings during the past
two years and it is clear to me that were it not for the persuasion
of the literal words of Genesis, Creationism as we know it would not
exist.  It is not possible to divorce modern (ICR, CSRC) creationism
from religion, and as long as we are going to discuss Creationism we
are going to have to discuss religion.

I would remind everyone that it was to get discussions such as these
*out* of net.religion, net.physics, net.misc and elsewhere that
this newsgroup was created.  Collecting everything in one newsgroup
has been a good thing for everyone involved.  But let's not make the
mistake of thinking that the creation/evolution debate is fundamentally
a scientific debate, or that religion can be kept out of it.

May I recommend a new book that discusses Creationism and religion: *The
Meaning of Creation* by Conrad Hyers (John Knox Press 1984).  The author
is Professor of Religion at Gustavus Adolphus College, and he brings
a refreshing new perspective to the discussion.

-- 
"Men never do evil so cheerfully and so completely as when they do so from
	religious conviction."  -- Blaise Pascal

	Bill Jefferys  8-%
	Astronomy Dept, University of Texas, Austin TX 78712   (USnail)
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