Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/5/84; site reed.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!mhuxr!mhuxt!houxm!vax135!cornell!uw-beaver!tektronix!reed!swift From: swift@reed.UUCP (Theodore Swift) Newsgroups: net.misc,net.physics Subject: Re: Hydrogen (isn't flammible?!?) Message-ID: <1211@reed.UUCP> Date: Sun, 31-Mar-85 05:27:32 EST Article-I.D.: reed.1211 Posted: Sun Mar 31 05:27:32 1985 Date-Received: Tue, 2-Apr-85 05:03:50 EST References: <708@mhuxt.UUCP> <643@houxa.UUCP> <359@mnetor.UUCP> Reply-To: swift@reed.UUCP (PUT YOUR NAME HERE) Organization: Reed College, Portland, Oregon Lines: 21 Xref: watmath net.misc:7739 net.physics:2376 Summary: There is one big advantage of hydrogen over helium: hydrogen has a much greater "lifting power", four times as much according to a book _Airships_ I read a long, long time ago. Four times strikes me as off, since hydrogen, though of atomic weight 1.00X, is diatomic. Thus it would only have "twice" the lifting power. This same _Airships_ book (sorry I don't remember the author/publ.) stated that "helium was a biproduct of the American natural gas industry, something Germany didn't have ". Whether or not there was stockpiling or embargoing going on, I dunno. As to hydrogen running cars, you wouldn't store the stuff as a compressed gas or as a liquid; that'd still be too hairy if there was an accident (and there would be, unless we drastically change the basic natures of the maniacs we call drivers). One way of *safely* storing hydrogen that's being investigated is lithium hydrides: saturating lithium metal with hydrogen. I saw an article about a prototype VW van with LiH[n] cells on the floor in the back. I think they were using heat from the exhaust to drive the hydrogen out of the lithium cells. They had some kind of heating coils to get things going in cold weather. I can't say much more without going off into speculation-land.