Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.1 6/24/83; site petsd.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!bonnie!akgua!whuxlm!whuxl!houxm!vax135!petsd!cjh From: cjh@petsd.UUCP (Chris Henrich) Newsgroups: net.physics Subject: Re: Hydrogen (isn't flammible?!?) (vs. Helium in dirigibles) Message-ID: <488@petsd.UUCP> Date: Wed, 3-Apr-85 16:45:28 EST Article-I.D.: petsd.488 Posted: Wed Apr 3 16:45:28 1985 Date-Received: Thu, 4-Apr-85 06:41:24 EST References: <1211@reed.UUCP> Organization: Perkin-Elmer DSG, Tinton Falls, N.J. Lines: 38 [] Apropos of the Graf Zeppelin, Theodore Swift writes: > Four times > strikes me as off, since hydrogen, though of atomic weight 1.00X, > is diatomic. Thus it would only have "twice" the lifting power. The difference in lifting power between H2 and He is smaller than that. Consider that lifting power comes from the _difference_ between the weight of the lifter and that of the surrounding fluid (in this case, air). A standard volume (22.4 liters?) of gas with a molecular weight N, at standard temperature and pressure, masses N grams. The average molecular weight of the mixture of gases in air is about 29. now... Mass of Gas Mass of Air Buoyancy H2 2 29 27 He 4 29 25 (That is, 22.4 liters of H2 will lift 27 grams, but 22.4 liters of H3 will lift 25 grams.) So hydrogen is "better" by a whopping 8 percent (weeping wizards!) Hydrogen is also much easier to obtain by chemical processes. But, of course, it burns. My recollection is that the Germans wanted to use Helium, for safety reasons, and the USA refused to sell it to them, because it was used in some munitions-making process. Regards, Chris -- Full-Name: Christopher J. Henrich UUCP: ..!(cornell | ariel | ukc | houxz)!vax135!petsd!cjh US Mail: MS 313; Perkin-Elmer; 106 Apple St; Tinton Falls, NJ 07724 Phone: (201) 870-5853