Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.1 6/24/83 v7 ucbtopaz-1.8; site ucbtopaz.CC.Berkeley.ARPA Path: utzoo!linus!philabs!cmcl2!seismo!harvard!talcott!panda!genrad!decvax!ucbvax!ucbtopaz!mwm From: mwm@ucbtopaz.CC.Berkeley.ARPA Newsgroups: net.politics.theory Subject: Re: What is property? Message-ID: <870@ucbtopaz.CC.Berkeley.ARPA> Date: Wed, 31-Dec-69 18:59:59 EST Article-I.D.: ucbtopaz.870 Posted: Wed Dec 31 18:59:59 1969 Date-Received: Fri, 5-Apr-85 12:08:23 EST References: <370@gargoyle.UChicago.UUCP> <5252@utzoo.UUCP> <4985@ukc.UUCP> <836@ucbtopaz.CC.Berkeley.ARPA> <1853Re: What is property? <5366@utzoo.UUCP> Reply-To: mwm@ucbtopaz.UUCP (Praiser of Bob) Organization: Missionaria Phonibalonica Lines: 23 Summary: In article <5366@utzoo.UUCP> laura@utzoo.UUCP (Laura Creighton) writes: >Whoops! Whatever for? If I don't have the right to my own thoughts, then >how can I have the right to anything else? I'm using "intellectual property" in the same sense as it's used when talking about copyright and patent protection. I don't want to do away with your ownership of your thoughts. However, I reject the notion that you can own the copy you've given to someone else. The stance is similar to RMS's (is he listening??) stance on software, extended to cover the other kinds of intellectual property. Minus, of course, the implication that it's your duty to give your work to someone else. You are perfectly free to take your thoughts and hide them from the world. I'd consider such action antisocial, somewhat like not donating to charities. Something to be discouraged, but not justification for using force on the perpetrator. To put the boot on the other foot, can you justify using force on other people so they won't give away (legally obtained) copies of your software, if you don't have a contract with them to prevent such action?