Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!laura From: laura@utzoo.UUCP (Laura Creighton) Newsgroups: net.politics.theory Subject: Re: What is property? Message-ID: <5424@utzoo.UUCP> Date: Fri, 5-Apr-85 12:42:44 EST Article-I.D.: utzoo.5424 Posted: Fri Apr 5 12:42:44 1985 Date-Received: Fri, 5-Apr-85 12:42:44 EST References: <370@gargoyle.UChicago.UUCP> <5252@utzoo.UUCP> <4985@ukc.UUCP> <836@ucbtopaz.CC.Berkeley.ARPA> <1853Re: What is property? Organization: U of Toronto Zoology Lines: 28 To put the boot on the foot, can you justify using force on other other people so they won't give away (legally obtained) copies of your software, if you don't have a contract with them to prevent such action? Mike, I don't use force on people to prevent them from doing things. I use *threat* of force on people for this purpose. I get around to using force on people *after* they get around to doing things that I find immoral, not the other way around. . . .and not even in every case of people doing things I find immoral. When I write software I generally write only 2 kinds. The sort which I comment as ``free to distribute everywhere, please *do* *not* keep my name in this source if you modify it significantly'' and the sort which I expect not to get distributed anywhere except where I have contracted to do the work. I now put a distribution clause in contracts as a matter of course, but I would like this to be the default -- just as by default you can't sell magazine articles I write or books that I write under your own label. Defaults are important. Otherwise, when I sell a game to Apple, and they put it on a hundred thousand hard floppies, and sell them, the first 100 people will buy them and the next thousand will make a bootleg copy. At that rate I have to charge far too much money because I have to make my initial investment back fast. Laura Creighton utzoo!laura