Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site pyuxd.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!gamma!pyuxww!pyuxd!rlr From: rlr@pyuxd.UUCP (Dr. Emmanuel Wu) Newsgroups: net.religion,net.politics Subject: Re: Don Black, Nazis, and the amazing disappearing Holocaust Message-ID: <821@pyuxd.UUCP> Date: Sun, 31-Mar-85 17:32:06 EST Article-I.D.: pyuxd.821 Posted: Sun Mar 31 17:32:06 1985 Date-Received: Mon, 1-Apr-85 04:20:13 EST References: <394@gargoyle.UChicago.UUCP> Organization: STRONGARM COLLECTION AGENCY: We have no slogan Lines: 32 Xref: watmath net.religion:6414 net.politics:8312 > I apologize if Rich was offended by my article. As far as I know, > good satire and good taste are incompatible; and Rich seemed to be > using an interpretive principle of "If in doubt, assume it's > anti-Semitic." It is self-defeating for Jews to flame gentiles who > speak out against the neo-Nazi creeps. [RICHARD CARNES] Apology accepted. AS to my my "interpretive principle", let me say this: It may have seemed to you that your article was satirical. A good look at it showed little difference in content or tone from the article that preceded it, or from Black's original diatribes. The point is: though it may be obvious from the very ridiculousness of what you said that it was (to you) satirical, Black's articles (and the words of other neo-fascists) contain exactly the same words, and are NOT satirical, but rather very serious in intent. If you might say "But a reasoned person would realize it's ridiculous satire", think again. Reasoned people believe "big lie" techniques and other fascist propaganda techniques not less much than the rest of the population. The reason they use those manipulative techniques is because they work (look at the world of modern advertising!). Your article was, ridiculous in notion and may have been construed as satire, but it was little different from those that preceded it (Spence's and Black's). As such, how would YOU be able to tell the difference. Satire *IS* a great literary tool, but satire backfires, because there are some people who don't realize that it was satirical. (In fifteen or twenty years, people may believe that Spinal Tap was one of the great rock groups of the 80s, not knowing that the movie about them was a satire...) ---------- "Wait a minute. '*WE*' decided??? *MY* best interests????" Rich Rosen ihnp4!pyuxd!rlr -- "Discipline is never an end in itself, only a means to an end." Rich Rosen pyuxd!rlr