Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site cmu-cs-k.ARPA Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!unc!mcnc!decvax!genrad!panda!talcott!harvard!seismo!rochester!cmu-cs-pt!cmu-cs-k!tim From: tim@cmu-cs-k.ARPA (Tim Maroney) Newsgroups: net.religion Subject: Re: Re: Divine omniscience Message-ID: <352@cmu-cs-k.ARPA> Date: Fri, 29-Mar-85 17:07:51 EST Article-I.D.: cmu-cs-k.352 Posted: Fri Mar 29 17:07:51 1985 Date-Received: Tue, 2-Apr-85 05:10:27 EST References: <1333@aecom.UUCP> Organization: Carnegie-Mellon University, Networking Lines: 21 Quote from teitz@aecom.UUCP (Eliyahu Teitz) Thu Mar 28 13:04:08 1985: > > The "God is outside time" argument is really just a ploy to try to avoid > > discussing the subject by placing God outside the normal rules. But it is > > possible to consider the ramifications of the new rules as well, and we > > still wind up with a total lack of freedom. > > But if G-d created the game He is not normal ( and therefore cannot be > judged by normal rules ). That was the entirety of the response. Teitz edited out the paragraphs preceding, in which I showed in detail the fallacy of his argument. I ask you: Is this an intellectually honest way to discuss the subject? (Besides which, he didn't even respond adequately to the little piece he left in! As I said, the normal rules may not apply, but the argument does not even make sense under the SPECIAL rules Teitz tried to introduce.) -=- Tim Maroney, Carnegie-Mellon University, Networking ARPA: Tim.Maroney@CMU-CS-K uucp: seismo!cmu-cs-k!tim CompuServe: 74176,1360 audio: shout "Hey, Tim!"