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Subject: Don Black says goodbye....
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Date: Sun, 31-Mar-85 21:50:41 EST
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Posted: Sun Mar 31 21:50:41 1985
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>As you all seem to desire, I'm going to crawl back into my cave with
>the other dinosaurs.  (They actually make better company than some humans.)
>Veni, vidi, vici.

>[DON BLACK]

Earlier, you were Constantine; now you're Julius Caesar.  Which is it?      
Are you really leaving, or are you going to get resurrected on Easter?  
What's Russel Spence going to do without his fuehrer?  How will Jeff
Gillette feel?           

Speaking of Gillette, he seems to think that Don Black is a good
'ole boy with just a lot of questions (like "What death camps?").    
This scares me.  Either Gillette is incredibly naive or incredibly
deceptive.  Even at the finale, Black made the following comment:

>This same person would slam the jail door on Ernst Zundel or provide the
>match to burn a library.  

Does Ernst Zundel represent an entity that it is important for
Jeff Gillette to defend?  Ernst Zundel is a balding, middle aged man
who was born in Germany in 1939 with a passion to rehabilitate the repu-     
tation of Hitler and the Third Reich.  He calls his house his BUNKER,
AND HAS A SCALE MODEL OF AUSCHWITZ IN HIS BASEMENT!  (With only one
oven, of course:  remember?  no death camps).                      

What were the supernaturalists doing while Black was vilifying the
Jewish people?  Almost nothing.  Reverend Bob advised Don Black that it
will be difficult for christians to proselytize to the jews if "they
think we wish to color them gone."  Marchionni got into a theological
debate with Black, scolding his critics, and commenting on how he
"had no qualms with Black."  Jeff Gillette thought that Black was
another victim of Rich Rosen's christian baiting (not mentioning
how he himself was once a charter member of the Yiri Ben-David
baiting club).

ONLY THOSE INDIVIDUALS LIKE RICH ROSEN AND BYRON HOWES WHO HAVE
CONSISTENTLY ARGUED FOR REASON AND KNOWLEDGE IN HUMAN DECISIONS
AS OPPOSED TO SUPERSTITION AND INTOLERANCE MADE THEIR VOICES 
HEARD 100% AGAINST DON BLACK.

It is true that later Charley Wingate and Richard Carnes made
their voices heard.  And even Marchionni later said that Black's
positions were not of the RC church, and went back to discussing
transubstantion.  BUT IF IT WERE NOT FOR PEOPLE LIKE ROSEN OR MARONEY
OR HOSHEN, WE WOULD BE STILL LISTENING TO DEBATES ON WHETHER OR NOT
THE JEWS ARE CHRIST-KILLERS, ON WHETHER OR NOT THERE WAS A HOLOCAUST,
OR WHETHER OR NOT JESUS WAS AN ARYAN AND HITLER WAS HIS PROPHET.

As we watch Black fade into the sunset, let us recall the words of
Thomas Jefferson (he's the one who wrote the Bill of Rights, remember?):
It says something to all those who wish to make of their nationalism
a religion:

"I tremble for my country when I reflect that G-d is just."
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bill peter                    {ihnp4,seismo}!cmcl2!lanl!wkp