Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.1 6/24/83; site umcp-cs.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!bonnie!akgua!whuxlm!harpo!decvax!genrad!panda!talcott!harvard!seismo!umcp-cs!mangoe From: mangoe@umcp-cs.UUCP (Charley Wingate) Newsgroups: net.religion Subject: Who decides on morals? Message-ID: <4511@umcp-cs.UUCP> Date: Tue, 2-Apr-85 18:59:44 EST Article-I.D.: umcp-cs.4511 Posted: Tue Apr 2 18:59:44 1985 Date-Received: Thu, 4-Apr-85 06:48:47 EST References: <487@lll-crg.ARPA> Distribution: net Organization: U of Maryland, Computer Science Dept., College Park, MD Lines: 17 In article <487@lll-crg.ARPA> muffy@lll-crg.UUCP (Muffy Barkocy) writes: >Actually, if Hitler had won, he would indeed have been correct. Not from >*my* point of view, of course, but I would be dead. In fact, as I recall, >he wanted to kill everyone who didn't believe as he did, so the only people >left alive would be those that agreed with him, or said they did. Regard- >less of what you may believe, "right" and "wrong" are societally defined, >they are *not* inborn. Thus, if everyone in my society thinks as I do, >then I am right. If Hitler killed off all the people that didn't think as >he did, his society would have agreed with him, and he would be right. So I guess Martin Luther King Jr. was an immoral person, since his morality was in conflict with his society. And I suppose that we, as Americans, had no right to move against Hitler, or to condemn his actions. Sorry Muffy, this line of argument was refuted a long time ago. Pure cultural relativism just doesn't cut it. Charley Wingate umcp-cs!mangoe