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From: hutch@shark.UUCP (Stephen Hutchison)
Newsgroups: net.religion.christian
Subject: Re: Arguments from Silence: Golden or just Yellow?
Message-ID: <1308@shark.UUCP>
Date: Mon, 1-Apr-85 01:40:56 EST
Article-I.D.: shark.1308
Posted: Mon Apr  1 01:40:56 1985
Date-Received: Thu, 4-Apr-85 05:36:21 EST
References: <1008@phs.UUCP> <771@pyuxd.UUCP>
Reply-To: hutch@shark.UUCP (Stephen Hutchison)
Organization: Tektronix, Wilsonville OR
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Summary: 

< Sevin >

In article <771@pyuxd.UUCP> rlr@pyuxd.UUCP (alias Dr. Emmanuel Wu) writes:
>> But, back to my original point.  If Don Black (or Rich Rosen, or anyone 
>> else) ultimately shows himself/herself to be thoroughly narrowminded, 
>> intolerant and bigoted, don't hold your breath waiting for me to make any 
>> obligatory denunciations.  And don't waste your breath saying that Jeff 
>> Gillette supports intolerance and prejudice because he hasn't denied it 
>> loudly enough.  I'm not interested in playing that game.  Truth is God's 
>> Truth, and Truth will win out with my comment or without it.  This type 
>> of argument from silence is not golden, it's yellow.  And I have no 
>> interest in cowering before it. 
>
>I'd say you do.  As do, apparently the vast majority of Christians on this
>net.  It's funny that only Wingate and Brown, the ones who have actually
>been tarred with the label "anti-Semite" at times, have chosen to perhaps
>"cleanse" themselves by denouncing Black, but even then only mildly so.
>The evidence as presented seems rather clear, but you'd rather wait till
>his kind firebombs someone's house before accepting what it is he's
>putting forth.  Don't get me wrong.  I say let him speak.  Let his own
>words show him for the bigoted fool that he is.  It will happen soon
>enough.
>-- 
>Otology recapitulates phonology.
>					Rich Rosen    ihnp4!pyuxd!rlr

Rich, PLEASE come off your infinite superiority act.  Your repeated articles
have been effective in bringing Black to our attention.  There is very little
in the way of agreement with Black's "christianity" on this net, from Christian
or non-Christian.  You have done us all a service, even if you seem to feel
compelled to go to extremes in your condemnation of our "hypocrisy".

If I were Wingate or Brown, I would take personal offense at your claim
that they are "cleansing themselves" by denouncing Black.  That is very much
putting words in their mouths (Of course, if you can pull out a quote where
they use EXACTLY that phrasing themselves, I will yield you the point); I
recall you complaining long and loud that we (I, anyway) were doing that to
you.

It may be hard for you to accept this, but Christians don't HAVE to believe
just what you want us to believe, any more than you HAVE to believe what
we want YOU to believe.  Nor do we have to act on every injustice, and I
doubt that you yourself act on every injustice you encounter.  In fact, I
KNOW that you don't, because you refuse to recognize some kinds of injustice.
(For instance, the injustice inherent in your proclaimed desire to see
Christianity extinguished from the face of the Earth.)

Keep up the good work, but don't get cocky, and stop claiming that I'm
a Nazi just because I didn't notice and immediately respond to one.

Hutch