Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/5/84; site reed.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!mhuxr!ihnp4!houxm!vax135!cornell!uw-beaver!tektronix!reed!purtell From: purtell@reed.UUCP (Lady Godiva) Newsgroups: net.religion.christian Subject: Peter and churches Message-ID: <1237@reed.UUCP> Date: Wed, 3-Apr-85 15:12:41 EST Article-I.D.: reed.1237 Posted: Wed Apr 3 15:12:41 1985 Date-Received: Sat, 6-Apr-85 01:36:50 EST References: <8368@watarts.UUCP> <1015@cbosgd.UUCP> <1084@topaz.ARPA> Reply-To: purtell@reed.UUCP (Lady Godiva) Organization: Reed College, Portland, Oregon Lines: 31 Summary: In a class today one of the students made the statement that even though Peter denied Christ, later on he repented, accepted him, and became a follower. My professor's reply was one that I had never heard before, and so I thought that I would post it to the net in hopes of getting some discussion on it. He said that he thought that through Peter's actions he continued to deny Christ. Another student asked what he thought Peter had done to deny Christ. His reply was that Peter went and set up a church, and that there was nothing that could deny Christ's teachings more than setting up a church. I'm definitely not looking for a discussion on whether or not churches have any useful purposes. I think that most people would agreee that there are at least a few churches that provide very good social services. Nor am I looking for a discussion on which denomination is better. I would like to hear some thoughts on whether or not Christ taught that a church (organized religion) should be set up in the first place. Did he teach it, did he teach against it, or was he silent on the subject? I have always highly questioned the concept of organized religion, especially after I became a Christian. So I tend to lean towards agreeing with my professor's statement. But I'm not going to give a full fledged opinion until I do a little reading about it, and what Christ did say. I think that I should add that the class was not a religion class. It was a class in American drama. The statement was just a statement of opinion, not something he was trying to teach the class. Anyone have any views on this? elizabeth (Lady Godiva)