Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/18/84; site topaz.ARPA Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!cbosgd!cbdkc1!desoto!packard!topaz!hedrick From: hedrick@topaz.ARPA (Chuck Hedrick) Newsgroups: net.religion.christian Subject: Re: Easter and the Arms Race Message-ID: <1163@topaz.ARPA> Date: Wed, 10-Apr-85 04:51:55 EST Article-I.D.: topaz.1163 Posted: Wed Apr 10 04:51:55 1985 Date-Received: Thu, 11-Apr-85 01:37:41 EST References: <135@yetti.UUCP> Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J. Lines: 82 In my first response to this I tried to give a brief historical review of Christian attitudes towards war. Now I would like to mention a couple of specific traditions in this area. First, it seems clear to me that pacifism is the most obvious interpretation of the New Testament. Turn the other cheek. Love your enemy. It is easy to support non-violence from the NT. And indeed there are certainly Christians who take all of this seriously. It is my impression that they are a minority. But they do interesting work. There have even been some discussions of what a non-violent defense would look like. Apparently it was tried against the Nazi's in WWII in one place, with some success. However I have only seen references to this. I haven't read any details. (Does anyone know more detail?) I am not referring to people who let the Nazis roll over them. I am talking about a concerted attempt to meet them with love, and to resist their evil nonviolently. This is clearly in the tradition of Gandhi and Martin Luther King. If you take this position with ultimate seriousness, you would say that we should allow the Russians to conquer us and then resist nonviolently. (If indeed they would do so -- the other hope is that it takes two to make a conflict, and if we disarmed, the Russians would in fact not conquer us.) The hope is that it would result in a real victory, i.e. turning evil into good. This is something that we can't hope for using violent methods. I think many people are simply afraid that this is not "practical". There is a concern that successful non-violence might require an almost unanimous commitment by the victims. Some people also feel that it requires a certain basic level of humanity on the part of the aggressors. One often hears the comment that Gandhi's approach worked because he was dealing with the British, but that if he had tried it against the Nazis, his group would have gotten blown away. However I believe there is a growing realization that non-violence is a basic Christian position, and even if we can't use it immediately to solve the arms race, we should be trying to expand the sphere in which we can apply it. The mainline Protestant tradition takes a somewhat different approach. While it is admitted that individuals must turn the other cheek, this may not apply to officials. The idea is that there are certain offices what are ordained by God, such as parent and magistrate. I don't have here a full exposition of the Biblical authority behind this, but 1 Pet 2:13-14 and in some indirect sense Mark 12:17 testify to the legitimacy of the magistrate's authority. (Jesus' cleansing of the temple, although not directly relevant here, can also be cited as justification of the use of force by an authorized person.) When this is combined with the definite theocratic ideals of the OT, it is easy to come up with the idea that magistrates are appointed by God to maintain order. One of the responsibilities of the ruler is asserted to be protecting innocent people from being harmed by aggressors. So while it might not be acceptable for you to defend yourself, it is acceptable to defend someone else, particularly when you are acting as a magistrate. This concept of the magistrate shows up in both Lutheran and Reformed theology. As a typical example, what do you do if your ruler is a tyrant? Several of the Reformers would answer that the ruler is ordained by God, so rebellion is not allowable, at least not when you are acting as a private person. However it is the duty of the lesser magistrates to curb tyranny around them. So effectively you could still have a revolution, but it would have to be carried out by some responsible authority. (There is something to be said for this historically, by the way. Revolutions have a tendency to get out of hand and make things worse. One reason why the American revolution seems to have resulted in less chaos than the French one is because in America what really happened is that the colonial governments continued to function. The lesser magistrates simply defended the people against the greater ones. We didn't have a total overthrow of the basic governmental structure.) The effect of this point of view is to bifurcate ethics, so that Jesus' ideals apply only between individuals. When dealing with governmental policy, the controlling principle becomes protecting your citizens using the sword which God has put in your hand. This seems to have been the dominant position in the mainstream of the Reformation. (As I mentioned before, the Left Wing was pacifist.) It is clear that there is still an ambivalence in Christianity about the role of the government and power. On the one hand, much of the NT and parts of the OT (particularly the Psalms) take it for granted that the people with power will always be evil and God's people will always be persecuted. It is very easy to derive an ethic of non-power from this. Indeed some people question whether we should be thinking of accomplishing goals at all. The ultimate in non-power is that we should simply do good, and trust to God to make things come out right. On the other hand, there is a strong theocratic ideal. Our goal is to bring God's kingdom about on earth. The Puritans were one of the stronger representatives of this view. Their ideas were quite influential in the early days of the U.S., and continue to be now. I confess that I see attractions to both of these positions.