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From: sommers@topaz.ARPA (Liz Sommers)
Newsgroups: net.religion,net.religion.christian,net.religion.jewish
Subject: Re: The writings of Don Black (Bravo Rich!)
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Date: Tue, 26-Mar-85 08:10:03 EST
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Posted: Tue Mar 26 08:10:03 1985
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>2.  To non-Christians:  I ask nothing.  All the people who have responded to
>	what Black has to offer have been non-Christians.  Perhaps because
>	it is we who have the most to fear (our freedom, our lives?) from
>	his "Christian state".  At least for the time being.  Well, I do ask
>	this:  are you as frightened of this as I am?  I mean, I've stated in
>	the past that the very REASON why I feel I have to question the nature
>	of certain wishful thinking and subjective evidence and presumptive
>	belief systems is NOT because I *care* how/what other people believe,
>	but because I fear those who would persuade such people that their
>	beliefs form a basis and reason for controlling the lives of other
>	people.  And, as evidenced by already prevalent attitudes among
>	Christians as shown towards certain groups AND as evidenced by the
>	deadening silence offered in response to this Identity Christianity
>	by the Christian community, my worst fears seem to be more than
>	realized.
>
-the article alone was enough to leave me numb.  But not numb
>enough not to act. 
>-- 
>"It's a lot like life..."			 Rich Rosen  ihnp4!pyuxd!rlr


Numb is the EXACT word.  I have a hard time with all of this...called in a
lot of my friends,lover, roomies to read it. The Christians just said "He
is crazy, yes it is scary", and did not finish reading ...after all it
"was just more of the same stuff".

Well, I have a very Jewish background and I look very Jewish.  Most of my
family is first generation here...I am truly scared of the Nazis coming.
Maybe this is a silly irrational fear, maybe I am just delving into "group
memory".  All I could think of is "this guy wants me dead"!

I tried to start up a conversation about his political miscomprehensions,
and all the answer I got was ANOTHER christian explaining to me that 
(I paraphrase) "This was started as a Christian state, James Madison was a
Baptist."  Something is very wrong here.

Not a Jew, not a Christian

-- 
liz sommers
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