Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/18/84; site moscom.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!unc!mcnc!decvax!genrad!panda!talcott!harvard!seismo!rochester!ritcv!moscom!de From: de@moscom.UUCP (Dave Esan) Newsgroups: net.religion.jewish Subject: Re: Humanistic Judaism Message-ID: <522@moscom.UUCP> Date: Fri, 29-Mar-85 13:31:50 EST Article-I.D.: moscom.522 Posted: Fri Mar 29 13:31:50 1985 Date-Received: Tue, 2-Apr-85 05:11:04 EST References: <239@npois.UUCP>, <1282@aecom.UUCP> <634@spuxll.UUCP> Organization: MOSCOM Corp, E Rochester, NY, USA Lines: 25 Quote at the end of the article. There are not as many mitzvot as you might think that involve either the fear or the love of Hashem. Of the many mitzvot, most are written in a form that do not deal with Hashem at all. For instance, do not murder, do not kill, do not build an altar of cut stone, do not wear shatnez, ... A person today is considered a good Jew is he/she observes about twenty mitzvot (the rest are not applicable because we are not in Israel or the temple is not standing). Does the motivation for observance matter? I also dislike the connotation that the Torah talks of fearing Hashem. It also talks of loving him (V'Ahavta et Adoshem Elokekhah - And you should love the L-rd your G-d). I was taught that we first fear him for that is natural and then as we grow we can learn to love him, for that too is natural. David Esan (!moscom!de) > After reading all the articles about Humanistic Jews, I have come to > the conclusion that they are "Apikoresim" who don't believe in G-d > and use the Torah as a good health/good life guide book. > This does not make sense to me as much of the Torah talks about > fearing G-d. > > Meyer Steinberg