Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version nyu B notes v1.5 12/10/84; site csd2.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!unc!mcnc!decvax!genrad!panda!talcott!harvard!seismo!cmcl2!csd2!meth From: meth@csd2.UUCP (Asher Meth) Newsgroups: net.religion.jewish Subject: Re: Halachic not Humanistic Judism Message-ID: <3780034@csd2.UUCP> Date: Mon, 1-Apr-85 17:15:00 EST Article-I.D.: csd2.3780034 Posted: Mon Apr 1 17:15:00 1985 Date-Received: Wed, 3-Apr-85 07:57:27 EST References: <421@wxlvax.UUCP> Organization: New York University Lines: 21 /* csd2:net.religion.jewish / martillo@mit-athena.UUCP (Joaquim Martillo) / 10:45 am Mar 29, 1985 */ If you read the article, I did not call Rab Gershom silly. I called the tikun silly. I consider this not disrespectful because I do not believe he ever made such a tikun. Anyway Sefardim do not use rab or rabbi the same way as Ashkenazim but usually only apply the term to individuals who have smikah when the Sanhedrin is in existence. I doubt that Moshe bar Maimon ever was addressed by title Rab or Rabbi in conversation. Likewise since Gershom comes from the provencal tradition probably he was never addressed as Rab while he lived. My mother tells me she has always been amused by Ashkenazi usage of rebbi because for Libyans rebbi, ribbi or rubbi are disparaging terms for people who know little of Judaism but exaggerate the value of their opinions (people like Rich Rosen). Ribbi and Rebbi are also Karaite usage for a Karaite scholar. The Hakam Bernays, Hirsch's teacher, held that all religious Jews should avoid the use of Rab and Rabbi because using these terms give legitimacy to certain illegitimate approaches to Judaism common among Ashkenazim. /* ---------- */