Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/18/84; site h-sc1.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!bonnie!akgua!sdcsvax!dcdwest!ittvax!decvax!genrad!panda!talcott!harvard!h-sc1!harmon_c From: harmon_c@h-sc1.UUCP (david harmon) Newsgroups: net.misc,net.physics,net.sci Subject: Re: Perpetual Motion (magnetic field) Message-ID: <239@h-sc1.UUCP> Date: Sat, 30-Mar-85 17:01:09 EST Article-I.D.: h-sc1.239 Posted: Sat Mar 30 17:01:09 1985 Date-Received: Tue, 2-Apr-85 07:57:11 EST References: <336@cmu-cs-k.ARPA> Organization: Harvard Univ. Science Center Lines: 22 Xref: watmath net.misc:7743 net.physics:2381 net.sci:318 > Although it's fairly obvious that the machine under discussion is a hoax, as > evidenced by the conflicting stories the inventor gives about its mode of > operation if nothing else, there isn't anything inherently ludicrous about > extracting energy from the Earth's magnetic field, is there? After all, it > does have the ability to do work -- just look at what happens with a compass > needle. However, I have no idea what the theoretical maximum of extractable > energy is. Can one of you physics types tell me, or correct my speculation? > -=- > Tim Maroney, Carnegie-Mellon University, Networking > ARPA: Tim.Maroney@CMU-CS-K uucp: seismo!cmu-cs-k!tim > CompuServe: 74176,1360 audio: shout "Hey, Tim!" There is one problem with machines drawing energy form the earths magnetic field. The energy yaken from the field must be taken from somewhere. For example, if you use a dynamo effect (you can keep a space platform in orbit with a few solar panels this way) the energy is taken from the Earth's energy of rotation. Naturally, this will cause problems only for the NBS in the near future, though I have not worked out the effects of a widespread industry based on something like it. By the way, NBS is the National Bureau of Standards, who among other things are responsible for setting the time by dawn and sunset. Dave Harmon harmon@h-sc1.arpa