Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/17/84; site mhuxr.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!mhuxr!mfs From: mfs@mhuxr.UUCP (SIMON) Newsgroups: net.women Subject: Re: A Small Victory; Not at All Message-ID: <290@mhuxr.UUCP> Date: Mon, 8-Apr-85 13:49:43 EST Article-I.D.: mhuxr.290 Posted: Mon Apr 8 13:49:43 1985 Date-Received: Tue, 9-Apr-85 02:31:02 EST References: <824@druxo.UUCP> <269@mhuxr.UUCP> <2349@randvax.UUCP> <277@mhuxr.UUCP> <237@h-sc1.UUCP> <2376@randvax.UUCP> Organization: AT&T Bell Laboratories, Murray Hill Lines: 24 > Ed Hall: > I meant ``ambiguity'', as a *means* of indicating ``generality''. > You're right, so far as the implications of what I said, but I felt it > important to point out that AMBIGUITY CONVEYS MEANING AS TO WHAT IS AND > IS NOT IMPORTANT. Marcel seems to feel that ambiguity implies some > failure of communication. ... [Hall goes on to elaborate on the above point. He does so very clearly. I have deleted it in the interest of brevity, but strongly encourage everyone to read the posting (<2376@randvax.UUCP> ] You are absolutely right. Ambiguity is useful in conveying "body english" as it were, through the language. We are no longer in agreement when you assert that ambiguity is desirable in "everyday" communication. A lot of problems are caused by one of the communicating parties not quite getting the intended shade of meaning. This is not a matter of "owning" the language, but as my 10th grade teacher always said, "if I don't understand what you said, then you have not said anything." I don't see the value of increased ambiguity if the price is occasional "noise on the communications line." To continue on the computer analogy, not all of us do flow control, or can request retransmission. This feeling is the basis for my lonely (and probably foolish) resistance against the singular 'they' as an instrument of gender neutrality. Marcel Simon