Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/18/84; site dciem.UUCP Path: utzoo!dciem!mmt From: mmt@dciem.UUCP (Martin Taylor) Newsgroups: can.ai,net.politics Subject: Re: Star Wars (following a discussion on can.ai) Message-ID: <1505@dciem.UUCP> Date: Tue, 2-Apr-85 18:51:02 EST Article-I.D.: dciem.1505 Posted: Tue Apr 2 18:51:02 1985 Date-Received: Tue, 2-Apr-85 22:12:11 EST References: Reply-To: mmt@dciem.UUCP (Martin Taylor) Organization: D.C.I.E.M., Toronto, Canada Lines: 34 Summary: >Regarding "peace through strength" versus "peace through goodwill": > >There is another alternative; peace through fear. Fear of self >annihilation. The use of "superordinate goals" for conflict resolution has >been well demonstrated (see "Reducing Intergroup Conflict", pages 454 to 474 >in B.H. Raven and J.Z. Rubin (1976), "Social Psychology: People in Groups" >published by Wiley & Sons, New York...don't mistake me...I am NOT a >psychologist, but what they had to say made sense to me). Fear of >extinction could be used as a superordinate goal...it is a threat to all and >it is in the mutual interest to cooperate to do something about it. The >point of superordinate goals is that "peace through fear" would encourage >the *gradual* development of "peace through goodwill". I think that SDI is >evidence of the fear. We need to convince people that "peace through >strength" will not work indefinitely ON A GLOBAL SCALE. Let us imagine that we knew that there were unfriendly aliens in the neighbourhood, who had the power to erase life from this planet UNLESS we found a way to avoid, quasi-permanently, the threat of internal war. Do you not think that we all (US, USSR, China, Chad etc.) would be working strenuously together to thwart this *external* threat? The US, UK and USSR put aside strong animosities in 1939-45 to deal with an external threat, and I see no reason to believe that they would not do it again in the face of a threat external to the planet. If this assumption is so, then what prevents us from working strenuously together to avoid self-annihilation? Is it that we don't all agree that the threat exists? I find that hard to believe, but I cannot come up with another explanation. -- Martin Taylor {allegra,linus,ihnp4,floyd,ubc-vision}!utzoo!dciem!mmt {uw-beaver,qucis,watmath}!utcsri!dciem!mmt