Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.1 6/24/83; site ubc-cs.UUCP Path: utzoo!utcsri!ubc-vision!ubc-cs!robinson From: robinson@ubc-cs.UUCP (Jim Robinson) Newsgroups: can.politics Subject: Re: Star Wars North Message-ID: <992@ubc-cs.UUCP> Date: Sat, 30-Mar-85 22:54:37 EST Article-I.D.: ubc-cs.992 Posted: Sat Mar 30 22:54:37 1985 Date-Received: Sun, 31-Mar-85 17:26:13 EST References: <890@ubc-vision.CDN> Reply-To: robinson@ubc-cs.UUCP (Jim Robinson) Organization: UBC Department of Computer Science, Vancouver, B.C., Canada Lines: 87 Summary: In article <890@ubc-vision.CDN> mack@ubc-vision.CDN (Alan Mackworth) writes: > > ......... Weapons research and development has been > compared, in its economic impact, with digging an enormous > hole in the ground and filling it in again. It has little > spinoff benefit to the industrial and consumer economy. The > economic multiplier effects are minimal compared with other > activities. Using lasers, particle beams and computers to > dig the hole does not change that fact! The United States' > economy is now overheated because of massive military expen- > ditures. It appears however that, fundamentally, that econ- > omy is in decline. In 1984 the United States' current > account balance of payments deficit was $101,600,000,000. > It is now a net debtor nation. Is this the economic perfor- > mance we want to emulate? If indeed the US economy is overheated then I suggest that this state of affairs is *not* due to massive military spending. I am not an economist but it would appear to me that in order for an economy to overheat there would have to be too much money circulating in that economy which could only happen if a substantial amount of money found itself in the hands of a substantial number of people. Since I agree that the multiplier effects of military spending are minimal, i.e. a great deal of money is going into the hands of a few, I am tempted to look elsewhere for the answer. The single action that Ronald Reagan did that would both cause this release of large amounts of money into the economy *and* ensure that this money was reasonably distributed was to deficit finance a 25% cut in federal income tax. By returning this money to the people he stimulated the consumer economy in a very (overly?) positive manner. No ridiculous job creation schemes in **selected** MPs' ridings which tend to do little more than guarantee the re-election of the concerned MP and cause a short term drop in the unemployment rate. No, he gave the money back to those who know best what to do with it. Unfortunately, a key phrase in the above is "deficit finance" and it is this deficit financing of the tax cut that has now come back to haunt the US. Canada's deficit has done nothing for the Canadian economy due to the fact that it is being used to finance non-productive ventures. ( Did I hear someone say Canadair ? ) Any criticism of an economy would be incomplete if one looked only at its trade deficit and ignored its unemployment rate and yearly deficit. Yes, the US does have a whopping trade deficit of $100 billion which compares poorly with Canada's trade *surplus* of 20 billion. However, the unemployment rate in the US is about 7.2% compared to Canada's 11%. Of the Big 7 only the US and Japan have single digit unemployment, and my own personal opinion is that much of the Japanese way of doing things is not transplantable to North America. Somehow I cannot picture happy UAW members cheerfully singing the company song before merrily starting another day of work for their respected employer. Canada has a yearly deficit of about $35 billion versus the US's $180 billion. I.e. on a per capita basis, our deficit is *twice* the size of the US's. This also ignores the fact that 49 of the 50 states are required by law to have balanced budgets, whereas I don't think there is a single province with such an animal. It is of interest to note that in the States both the Republicans and the Democrats agree that the deficit stands in the way of full economic recovery; their disagreement is on how to reduce it. In stark contrast to this Canada is in the situation where not one of the three federal parties will admit that something has to be done. They are all trying to pretend that the deficit will magically go away on its own if we ignore it long enough. To his credit, John Turner did at the beginning of his campaign talk about reducing the deficit, but he quickly realized that nobody wanted to hear about it and so shut up. Coming back to Canada's trade surplus we note that about 75% of Canada's exports are to the US. This means that Canada is in the precarious position of benefiting from the US's trade deficit. This suggests that whatever measures are taken by the US to reduce their trade deficit will invariably decrease our trade surplus. The Americans are already quite upset about Canada's steel and lumber exports and it is only because of Reagan's free trade attitude that Canada has not found heavy quotas and/or tariffs affecting those exports. If that had been a Democratic president Canada would have been up the proverbial creek without a paddle. We also note that trade deficits are not cumulative in the manner that revenue deficits are. I.e. every year that we add to the national debt by running a deficit we must devote a greater percentage of our expenditures, in the following year, to servicing that now larger debt thus leaving less money for productive purposes. So my answer to the question "is this the economic performance that we want to emulate?": it sure is a lot better than we're doing now. J.B. Robinson