Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/18/84; site dolqci.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!allegra!bellcore!decvax!genrad!panda!talcott!harvard!seismo!dolqci!mike From: mike@dolqci.UUCP (Mike Stalnaker) Newsgroups: net.abortion Subject: Re: Back to you, Ken Message-ID: <288@dolqci.UUCP> Date: Wed, 27-Mar-85 14:09:24 EST Article-I.D.: dolqci.288 Posted: Wed Mar 27 14:09:24 1985 Date-Received: Sat, 30-Mar-85 01:41:29 EST References: <3824@mit-eddie.UUCP> <300@we53.UUCP> Distribution: net.abortion Organization: US. Dept. of Labor, Emp. Train. Adm. Q. C. Group , Wash DC. Lines: 39 > >I must wonder about a doctor who would leave something that is living and > >breathing on its own to die. I have never heard of this happening, and having > >relatives that worked in hospitals (in delivery rooms), at least at these > >hospitals, doctors DO NOT leave anything to die. Second or third trimester > >abortions are rare. It is SO rare that an abortion could have survived on > >its own outside of the mother that it shouldn't even used as issue to ban > >all abortions. The cases of a child being born severely deformed and the > >parents and doctors deciding to withhold treatment is completely different > >than a fetus living after an abortion. > > Not true, Mikki. There are at least a thousand such cases a year. That's about > three a day. > > There are a number of cases that have come to court where the > doctor did not simply leave the baby to die, but actually strangled it. The > medical community covered their own, however and no convictions were returned. > > Let's stick to the truth. Let's also stick to real proportions. I'm not saying I condone those ~~thousand cases a year, but how many abortions are performed in this country each year????? That's what Mikki was saying, that 2nd and 3rd trimester abortions are RARE ** not ** nonexistant. Again, I'm not saying that I agree with them, so please no flames on that one. I've been watching this discussion go back and forth for a while now, and while I realize it's an emotional issue on both sides, I think the whole discussion would be better served if people kept their facts straight! Like Mikki said recently in another article, we would be better to figure out ways to show people all the alternatives **before** an unwanted pregnancy occured. -- Mike Stalnaker UUCP:{decvax!grendel,cbosgd!seismo}!dolqci!mike AT&T:202-376-2593 USPS:601 D. St. NW, Room 7122, Washington, DC, 20213 McCoy: "Shaddup Spock! We're Rescuing you!" Spock: "Why thank you, 'Captain McCoy'"