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From: mn@dscvax2.UUCP (Matt Noah)
Newsgroups: net.abortion
Subject: RE:  Mikki Barry is a Pro-Lifer
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Date: Wed, 20-Mar-85 17:46:44 EST
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>It is the kind of hysteria such as yours that makes it impossible for any
>compromise in the abortion issue.

hysteria: 1. an uncontrollable outburst of emotion or fear, often
characterized by irrationality, laughter, weeping, etc.

Since I am in control of my emotions, I have nothing to fear and I posess
none of the above mentioned characteristics I would say I am not hysterical.
What's your idea of a compromise?

>I HAVE had friend go to abortion clinics, and I HAVE gone with them.  I will
>tell you that the clinics I have been to are VERY concerned with the woman
>involved.  They ask her over and over again if she is sure she wants the
>abortion, and if she would like to be referred to a mental health pro
>if she wants to clarify her own choice to herself.  Most clinics also
>offer many gynecological services besides abortion, so believe me, they
>don't live on abortion money.  They don't need to talk anyone into abortions
>because the vast majority of women who go there are prefectly aware of their
>choice.  It sickens me that some think that women are people who have to
>be protected because they can't make their own choices and are so easily
>persuaded to do something they consider horrible by unscupulous people who just
>want money.  Women are perfectly intellegent enough to make their own
>decisions.  They dont need help from you.

I am sure it is possible to go to an abortion office and get compassion from
the staff.  Your experience is questionably unique.
Some OBs practices do not depend strictly on abortions for their livelihoods.
Abortion mills sprang up to profit directly from the Supreme Court decision.
Dr. Nathanson - a reformed abortionist - estimates his NY office performed
750,000 abortions.  Where do you think the abortion mills make their money -
gynecological services???  Wake up.
Sorry, most women who are aware of their choice are not educated about the
alternatives.  That's the real situation.  Adolescents seeking a quick
solution to an unwanted pregnancy don't do alot of research.  Who told you
the vast majority of women are perfectly aware of their choice?  Did you mean
to imply that they have weighed the alterntives and made a rational decision?
I submit otherwise.
Babies need protection.  A woman who is distraught over an unwanted pregnancy
needs love and counseling - not someone pushing her to the quick "solution"
known as abortion.

>When a woman who has decided that an abortion is the best
>thing for her (and sometimes for the fetus as well), does she need to have
>farcical pictures shoved in her face and be called a murderer?  She is already
>traumatized enough.  What if the same woman was approached by someone offering
>a realistic alternative.  What if she was told of a free program whereby she
>would be taken care of, and receive adoption help, or help taking care of the
>baby?  Wouldn't that be more productive than the lies being pushed in her
>face now? 

If you truly believe that abortion is the "best thing" for a fetus I would
have to imply that you believe in infanticide.  You obviously believe that
poor people should not have children.  If not, what in the hell good does
an abortion do for a fetus?
I don't want my tax dollars spent on abortion.  I would rather see them go
to HELP clinics and shelters.  Challenge: tell us what you've done to aid in
the cause you support!  What have you done to help women by way of donations
or services rendered to adoption, counseling or shelter?  If you have done
something I applaud you.  If not, don't preach.
Harry Truman once said of some of his adversaries ... 'I don't tell 'em to
go to hell ... I just tell the truth on them and that makes 'em feel like
they're in hell ...'  Abortion is one of the ugliest truths I know of to
be pushed in someone's face - most of the pro-lifers don't push anything in
anyone's face, though.

>PLEASE, for the sake of all women, stop the hysterical reaction to abortion
>and work on something to benefit everyone - prevention of unwanted pregnancy?
>Stop spending money on picketing, farcical films, and insulting women's
>intellegence and put it into group homes, financial aid for pregnant women
>and birth control information.  Isn't that better than raising everyone's
>blood pressure?
>
>Mikki Barry
 
PLEASE, for the sake of all women, stop the hysterical reaction to pro-life
and work on something to benefit everyone - prevention of unwanted pregnancy?
Stop making money on abortions and insulting women's intelligence.  Put your
efforts into group homes, financial aid for pregnant women and birth control
information.  Isn't that better than raising everyone's blood pressure?

Matt Noah