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Subject: Re: Distinct Impressions...
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Date: Mon, 1-Apr-85 09:13:14 EST
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I feel that Fowler and Gray have a lot to learn
about human nature, especially men.  There are plenty
of men who will "go along with the program" just to
gain something even though they do not believe in the
program.  The abortion issue is no different.

As for the convenience issue, I stick to my guns.  I
don't include the ignorant teenager in this argument,
that's another issue.  I address this argument to the
well educated woman and man who, steeped in their own
selfishness and hedonistic lifestyle, and because they
lack self-control and any modicum of responsibility,
opt for an abortion just so they can continue.  Don't
say they do not exist, because they do and have been
vocal here on this network over the past two years.

I've heard the stories, "Well, I just want to get my
degree first."  "I want to do some travelling."  
What they are saying is that no-matter what, their
convenience comes first.  Perhaps they should be
weeded out of society and force fed a large dose
of Biology.  There was a time, before abortions
became so commonplace, when people took responsibility
for their actions.  So they wanted to finish their
degree, fine, they took the necessary precautions,
learned how their bodies worked, and still enjoyed
the good life.  They did not opt for the easiest
way out.  If mistakes were made, they accepted their
responsibility.  With today's abortion clinic just
down the block, there is no need to accept any
responsibility, just get the little bugger salted
and life can go on as usual.  These are not uneducated
people.  These are not people who think that
douching with a coke will prevent pregnancies.
I have the distinct impression that these people
think that morality, any morality, is a dirty
word.  Their own convenience is the only watchword
they understand.  To hell with everyone and everything
else.  This is an attitude that offends me and if
you cannot accept that I am offended then it is
your problem.  If you get upset that the issue of
convenience is being discussed, then I must assume
that you adhere to its tenents.  

I don't expect to change your attitude one whit, but
maybe, just maybe, you might examine your own
feelings for about 10 ms and see something that
could stand some evaluation.
I make no judgements concerning the myriad of other
abortion issues as I am still evaluating the data
in my mind.  The only issue I feel strong about is
abortion for the convenience of the participants.
I abhor the bombings, I think Falwell's stance is
assinine, I support birth control education.  On the
other hand, I support  the strengthening of moral
issues, especially in the home.  Perhaps morality
is to strong a word, what I really mean is the
strengthening of character and the instilling of
responsibility at home.

If this is wrong to some of you, then I feel sorry
for you and there is no need to go any further.

Just remember, it was convenient for the nazis to
eliminate the lame and infirm, it was convenient
for them to force abortions, it was convenient for
Stalin to eliminate millons of Ukranians, it is
convenient for the Chinese to force abortions,
it is convenient, perhaps? to euthanise our poor
ethnic populations?  Where does convenience end?
Could this scenario be too far off --"I want to
finish my degree, but my mother, who is in a 
nursing home, takes too much of my cash reserves.
Besides, she is senile and won't care, let's just
have her euthanized.  After all, it would be more
convenient."

T. C. Wheeler