Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/5/84; site umd5.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!mhuxr!mhuxt!houxm!whuxl!whuxlm!harpo!decvax!genrad!panda!talcott!harvard!seismo!umcp-cs!cvl!umd5!zben From: zben@umd5.UUCP Newsgroups: net.analog Subject: Re: AC current monitor Message-ID: <446@umd5.UUCP> Date: Sun, 24-Mar-85 16:52:23 EST Article-I.D.: umd5.446 Posted: Sun Mar 24 16:52:23 1985 Date-Received: Thu, 28-Mar-85 00:04:12 EST References: <5139@fortune.UUCP> <445@umd5.UUCP> Reply-To: zben@umd5.UUCP (Ben Cranston) Distribution: net Organization: U of Md, CSC, College Park, Md Lines: 32 Summary: Shooting from hip considered dangerous (corrections) Oops, I forgot that LEDs don't shine at all until you overcome the band-gap energy (which is .7 volts for silicon). Relays don't have these kinds of problems... :-) Well, if you make the shunt big enough to drop .7 volts at 1 amp, it will drop 7 volts at 10 amps, and that is probably too much. The only other approach I can suggest is to find an old filament transformer (remember those?) of 10 amps capacity (maybe 5 or 6 volts) and use it backwards as a current sensing transformer. Something like: -----------------------()()()()()()()()()()-------------------- Line ================== ()()()()()()() | | sense here With the 5 volt side in series with the load and some kind of sensor on the 110 volt side. Problem areas: Secondary, being designed for 5 volts, might not have 110 volts worth of insulation to the case of the transformer. This would be a bad failure mode... Impedance of the sensor circuit would be reflected back into the line circuit by the turns ratio of the transformer. You should make this impedance as small as possible. A note on removing 60 cycle chatter - use TTL level to continuously retrigger a 74121 multivibrator set up to maybe 1/10 to 1 second time constant. Its a one chip solution. -- Ben Cranston ...{seismo!umcp-cs,ihnp4!rlgvax}!cvl!umd5!zben zben@umd2.ARPA