Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/18/84; site brl-tgr.ARPA Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!allegra!mit-eddie!genrad!panda!talcott!harvard!seismo!brl-tgr!ned From: ned@brl-tgr.ARPA (Raymond Prenatt ) Newsgroups: net.consumers,net.analog Subject: Re: power meters Message-ID: <9495@brl-tgr.ARPA> Date: Tue, 26-Mar-85 09:36:53 EST Article-I.D.: brl-tgr.9495 Posted: Tue Mar 26 09:36:53 1985 Date-Received: Thu, 28-Mar-85 01:38:53 EST References: <500@harvard.ARPA> <973@dual.UUCP> Reply-To: ned@brl-tgr.ARPA (Raymond Prenatt (TANK) ) Distribution: net Organization: Ballistic Research Lab Lines: 46 Xref: watmath net.consumers:2054 net.analog:230 Summary: In article <973@dual.UUCP> paul@dual.UUCP (Baker) writes: >> I'm looking for a gadget to plug into the wall that will tell me how much >> power an appliance, lamp, etc. is consuming. My electric bill has recently >> increased and I would like to find out where the power is going. >> -- >> ---------------- >> Marty Sasaki net: sasaki@harvard.{arpa,uucp} >> Havard University Science Center phone: 617-495-1270 >> One Oxford Street >> Cambridge, MA 02138 > >I simply can't believe that someone from the scientific section of >one of the U.S.A's supposedly leading universities doesn't know the >answer to this. Someone midway through high school physics should >be able to answer this. On the other hand perhaps education in the >U.S. really as bad as Raygun says it is if we have science >undergraduates or possibly graduates who don't that AMMETERS exist. > >Paul Wilcox-Baker. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- What you see above is an example of the kind of snotty, condescending, insulting response that, I think, we see all too frequently on the net. It harks back to the early days of microcomputing when it used to be considered *cute* to have the computer respond with insults when the user made an error. Of course, this sort of childishness predates the computer by millennia. You know. A kid's just gotten some new learning and suddenly everyone who doesn't know something that he knows is somehow *stupid*, or at least *ignorant*. I guess I sorta went through that stage myself back in grade school, and maybe a little even into high school. It's amazing how getting smacked in the mouth a few times (literally as well as figuratively) encourages behavior modification. I do think that most of us, at we grow up, soon realize how really sophomoric such talk sounds. It really IS less a reflection on the person we're putting down than it is on ourselves. I've found that one thing that often really helps in overcoming such an attitude is to concentrate on the many, many things that other people know about THEIR fields, or talents or skills that they have in THEIR areas of interest that I lack. (Maybe I'm not interested in acquiring them either, but that's beside the point.) My apologies, Paul. I'm sure that you're a fine person in many respects. It's just that this has been building up in me for some time; I needed to get it off my chest and you just happened to provide the last straw. =Ned=