Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.1 6/24/83; site unccvax.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!bonnie!akgua!whuxlm!harpo!decvax!mcnc!unccvax!dsi From: dsi@unccvax.UUCP (Dataspan Inc) Newsgroups: net.video,net.analog,net.micro.pc Subject: Re: Composite=>RBG conversion (reposting of query) Message-ID: <176@unccvax.UUCP> Date: Mon, 1-Apr-85 09:28:24 EST Article-I.D.: unccvax.176 Posted: Mon Apr 1 09:28:24 1985 Date-Received: Thu, 4-Apr-85 06:23:18 EST References: <191@neurad.UUCP> Organization: UNC-Charlotte Lines: 48 Xref: watmath net.video:1084 net.analog:251 net.micro.pc:3636 This is not terribly easy, particularly if you want to get the benefits of I/Q axis wide bandwidth demodulation.... What you need is: 1) A chrominance/luminance separator, which could be either a comb filter (preferred) or simple bandpass filter from 3.08 to 4.08 mc; 2) A subcarrier regenerator to provide a 3.579545 mc sine wave locked in phase to the colour burst signal in the composite waveform; 3) Quadrature synchronous detection of the chromanance, to recover the original I and Q sidebands; 4) Output filtering (DC-1.6 mc I, DC - 600 kc Q or to taste) as well as a fixed delay to match I to Q channel because of the lower bandpass of the Q channel; 5) Basis transformation matrix to convert I and Q into R, G, B Note that you could perform demodulation among any arbitrary axes, provided that the basis transformation matrix was correct. However, if one selects R-Y, B-Y; that narrow bandwidth is only possible (both channels limited to 500 kc/s. I think this is due to quadrature distortion caused by VSB transmission of the I-channel and subsequent truncation of the nonsymmetrical component contaminating the Q-channel. Another way to say this is that high frequency crosstalk is minimized with I-Q axis demodulation. Also, you must add back in the Y (monochrome) component unless your monitor has a separate Y-input (which is linear, etc.) There are devices which exist to do this (commercially black boxes) but the ones which recover the full I-channel bandwidth are VERY VERY expensive. The typical mid-line video store that caters to the industrial and basement-Eyewitness News market probably has one. If you had to build one, get the data sheet for the RCA CA 3217E. This is narrow band but has potential; i.e. a quoted bandwidth of 900 kc for the chroma demodulator and the basis transformation matrix built right in. It also doesn't use flaky, hard to wind coils; just the Dale IR-2 types. Be sure to ground pin 16 through a 470 ohm resistor if you like accurate colour reproduction (the production receivers leave it open, for orangy fleshtones!) One question: why go through the effort for your colour under VCR? Unless you have a type "C" or quadruplex in your living room, I think you will be ** VERY ** disappointed in the spurious junk brought to light from the video output jack. David Anthony DataSpan, Inc.