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From: jlg@lanl.ARPA
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Subject: Re: VMS / RMS
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Date: Mon, 25-Mar-85 14:53:27 EST
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Posted: Mon Mar 25 14:53:27 1985
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> NO NO NO!!!  For the time after the last time (somebody else said this
> "for the last time" a while ago), RMS is NOT the lowest level file
> handler on VMS, it is NOT part of the kernel!  RMS is a subroutine library
> that user programs call if they want to read RMS files.  The lowest level
> file handling (implementation of Files-11 ODL-2) is in the f11acp process
> (on older versions of VMS) or implemented in the xqp code in the kernel (on
> newer versions of VMS).  This code implements file naming and block IO.
> 
> There are enough legitemate complaints about RMS!  Let's not waste time
> on bogus ones.
> 
> 		-- David Dyer-Bennet
> 		-- ...decwrl!dec-rhea!dec-mrvax!ddb

YES YES YES!!!!  Anything that is automatically invoked by the language
processor that a user has access to is below the level of that language's
primitives!  From a user perspective RMS is at the lowest level!  Ever try
to read a formatted file through a QIO call!?!

There are lots of legitimate complaints about RMS - and this is one of them.

J. Giles