Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: notesfiles Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!mhuxr!mhuxt!houxm!whuxl!whuxlm!harpo!decvax!ittvax!dcdwest!sdcsvax!sdcrdcf!hplabs!hp-pcd!hpfcms!mpm From: mpm@hpfcms.UUCP (mpm) Newsgroups: net.audio Subject: Re: Carver CD Player & Technology Message-ID: <14700013@hpfcms.UUCP> Date: Mon, 18-Mar-85 21:47:00 EST Article-I.D.: hpfcms.14700013 Posted: Mon Mar 18 21:47:00 1985 Date-Received: Thu, 28-Mar-85 00:06:57 EST References: <14700008@hpfcms.UUCP> Organization: Hewlett-Packard - Fort Collins, CO Lines: 37 Nf-ID: #R:hpfcms:14700008:hpfcms:14700013:000:1506 Nf-From: hpfcms!mpm Mar 20 18:47:00 1985 I found another article (somewhere, I don't remember where) about the Carver player. Apparently it uses 2x oversampling (not 4x), but has 16-bit DACs. I think Sherwood also uses 2x oversampling. Why stop there? -- Mike "in the interests of audio education" McCarthy (hpfcla!hpfcms!) mpm P.S. After two years on the market, there is still a lot of confusion and misunderstanding of this technology. I now look with skepticism on advertising claims (even statements from trade journalists) about CD players. Watch out for the following: - misrepresentation of sampling rate Multiplexing a single DAC admittedly gives a real sampling rate of 88.2 KHz for both channels, but the standard 44.1 KHz rate for each channel. This is NOT the same thing as 2x oversampling. Obvious to us perhaps, but what about the typical consumer? - confusion between error correction and digital filtering As far as I know, ALL players have ECC. (The Sony/Phillips CD standard calls for the redundant info on the media. I guess there'e no guarantee a player will use it. [Maybe that's what was wrong with the old Sears deck.]) Only a few (more expensive) players have nifty digital filtering - often in conjunction with oversampling. Add these to other areas of confusion: the difference between mastering and digital recording, frequency response versus sampling rate, indexing, tracks versus bands, etc. (This is getting complicated.)