Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/18/84 exptools; site ihlpg.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!mhuxr!ihnp4!ihlpg!fish From: fish@ihlpg.UUCP (Bob Fishell) Newsgroups: net.consumers,net.analog Subject: Re: power/energy meters Message-ID: <300@ihlpg.UUCP> Date: Tue, 26-Mar-85 13:32:54 EST Article-I.D.: ihlpg.300 Posted: Tue Mar 26 13:32:54 1985 Date-Received: Wed, 27-Mar-85 04:27:17 EST References: <1027@hound.UUCP>, <450@hou2b.UUCP> <844@homxa.UUCP> <337@rduxb.UUCP> Organization: AT&T Bell Laboratories Lines: 31 Xref: watmath net.consumers:2044 net.analog:221 *** AC T YOUR AGE *** MUST we pollute this heretofore relatively sane newsgroup with discussions of who's too ignorant to know whatever? SHEESH! All the guy wanted to know was whether there was something he could buy, ready made, that would plug in between the wall and an appliance to tell how much juice it was using. Instead, somebody has to give hime grief and start one of these silly-ass discussions. I don't know of anything you can go out and buy that would do the job, although you could probably build one. All you need to know is the current and phase. Perhaps our friend is aware of that, but would rather buy one off the shelf than spend a couple of weekends burning his fingers and sniffing rosin. As far as I remember, the integrating wattmeters the power company uses (the gumball machine on the side of your house) neglect phase angle and therefore do *not* correct for power factor. Therefore, if you have a lot of inductive load in your house, idling motors and such, you're losing money. The little gadgets they sell for your refrigerator are supposed to correct for power factor and make the ol' ice box look more like a purely resistive load. The power company itself uses capacitors to correct for power factor at the feed to some factories (that use a lot of induction motors), but they neglect to extend the courtesy to us paean consumers. /_\_ Bob Fishell ihnp4!ihlpg!fish