Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10 beta 3/9/83; site uthub.UUCP Path: utzoo!utcsri!utai!uthub!thomson From: thomson@uthub.UUCP (Brian Thomson) Newsgroups: net.consumers,net.analog Subject: Re: power/energy meters Message-ID: <202@uthub.UUCP> Date: Wed, 27-Mar-85 16:48:12 EST Article-I.D.: uthub.202 Posted: Wed Mar 27 16:48:12 1985 Date-Received: Fri, 29-Mar-85 14:15:11 EST References: <1027@hound.UUCP>, <450@hou2b.UUCP> <844@homxa.UUCP> Organization: CSRG, University of Toronto Lines: 24 Xref: utai net.consumers:1434 net.analog:183 There seems to be a great deal of misinformation here. 1) The wattmeter on the side of your house does indeed measure (and integrate) power, and will not overcharge you if you have low power-factor loads. 2) Large industrial power users are also charged for true power, but with a contractually-determined power factor penalty. That is, the user promises to maintain a power factor of .95 lagging or better, and the power utility charges them an appropriately small penalty. If the user only promised .8 or better, the penalty would be greater. Of course, the utility may conduct power factor spot-checks to be sure you're holding up your end of the bargain. They care about power factor because distribution losses are proportional to current, not to power. This is how it was explained to me one summer when I worked in a substation in a nickel smelter in Manitoba. One of my functions was to monitor power factor and tell the electric furnace operators when to add or remove capacitors. We were a rather heavy power user - I seem to recall that the wattmeters wouldn't register at anything below about 5 megawatts. -- Brian Thomson, CSRI Univ. of Toronto {linus,ihnp4,uw-beaver,floyd,utzoo}!utcsrgv!uthub!thomson