Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/18/84; site x.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!allegra!bellcore!decvax!genrad!mit-eddie!cybvax0!frog!x!john From: john@x.UUCP (John Woods) Newsgroups: net.crypt Subject: Re: Why no hardware random numbers? Message-ID: <442@x.UUCP> Date: Mon, 25-Mar-85 13:18:31 EST Article-I.D.: x.442 Posted: Mon Mar 25 13:18:31 1985 Date-Received: Sun, 31-Mar-85 03:14:46 EST References: <868@utcsri.UUCP> <464@lll-crg.ARPA> Distribution: net Organization: Charles River Data Systems, Framingham MA Lines: 18 >GEE,did I discover a new effect with my Monte Carlo program or was the random >number generator a little off last tuesday. I can't find out because I can't > generate the same sequence again. > To quote someone truly famous, "GAAAAAAAAAH!" Take the hardware random number generator and dump a few million numbers out to disk. You have a repeatable sequence (and if you have good buffering, it might be a faster repeatable sequence than the RANDU you're probably tempted to use instead). If this seems silly to you, check out the Table of 10,000 Random Digits in your Rubber Bible (you *do* have the CRC Handbook of Mathmatics, don't you?). A few months back, a talk was given at MIT about 'correcting' biased random number generators, but I wasn't interested at the time and didn't attend. Maybe I'll try to dig up someone who knows about it. -- John Woods, Charles River Data Systems, Framingham MA, (617) 626-1101 ...!decvax!frog!john, ...!mit-eddie!jfw, jfw%mit-ccc@MIT-XX.ARPA