Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/18/84; site brl-tgr.ARPA Path: utzoo!linus!decvax!genrad!panda!talcott!harvard!seismo!brl-tgr!tgr!Samuel@SU-SCORE.ARPA From: Samuel@SU-SCORE.ARPA (Sam Hahn) Newsgroups: net.micro Subject: Re: The GNU Manifesto - let the people decide Message-ID: <9654@brl-tgr.ARPA> Date: Mon, 1-Apr-85 12:07:58 EST Article-I.D.: brl-tgr.9654 Posted: Mon Apr 1 12:07:58 1985 Date-Received: Sun, 7-Apr-85 10:35:49 EST Sender: news@brl-tgr.ARPA Lines: 39 Let's see... To me it looks like where there is a high quality product, and there is an IBM product, many will use the IBM product not because it is the BEST but because it is IBM. And thus you get the advancement of IBM products at the expense of superior ones. Let's separate the issue of technical superiority from the issue of whether you must PAY for the product. One can knock a PD program for its quality/lack-of-quality, but there are enough examples of superb software in the public domain that any attempt to generalize based only on the statements I've seen recently are at best incomplete. Look at ZCPR, MEX, various disk utilities, Kermit, BYE, various Forths, compression utilities, XLISP, and who know what else I've left out in this list that's come just from a quick mental scan. What support have I received from REAL products?? I've paid DRI and its associates over $1200.00 for the various OS products I've bought, but when upgrading from MP/M816 to ConcurrentDOS, I've lost. MP/M isn't a real products any more. Great, I'm out of luck, and am FORCED to go to ConcurrentDOS. Have they ever replied to my suggestions for improvement and consolidation of features from 3.0, -86, -816, not to mention ORIGINAL suggestions? No. What has Sorcim done for me? They tell me that upgrading from SuperCalc to SuperCalcII costs $125.00, is what they tell me. This when I can order SuperCalcII for $149 or so from mail order houses. Is this support? I could go on for many pages (and Kbytes). I've had better response from Ron Fowler, who's on the net, regarding MEX, than I've ever had from my REAL software products. I've had better help from my user groups in setting up PD software than I've ever gotten from software houses. The sources to PD software is often available, and that means a LOT in terms of the support that's possible to obtain. I personally plan to contribute to RMS's GNU effort as soon as I finish my master's project here at HPP. -- Sam Hahn -------