Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site cmu-cs-spice.ARPA Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!bonnie!akgua!mcnc!philabs!cmcl2!seismo!rochester!cmu-cs-pt!cmu-cs-spice!tdn From: tdn@cmu-cs-spice.ARPA (Thomas Newton) Newsgroups: net.micro.apple Subject: Re: APPLe/PIRACY Message-ID: <323@cmu-cs-spice.ARPA> Date: Thu, 28-Mar-85 22:26:27 EST Article-I.D.: cmu-cs-s.323 Posted: Thu Mar 28 22:26:27 1985 Date-Received: Sun, 31-Mar-85 05:21:29 EST Organization: Carnegie-Mellon University, CS/RI Lines: 37 Don't equate "hackers" with "pirates". From "The Hacker's Dictionary," by Guy Steele, Donald Woods, Raphael Finkel, Mark Crispin, Richard Stallman, and Geoffrey Goodfellow: HACKER @i(noun) 1. A person who enjoys learning the details of computer systems and how to stretch their capabilitites -- as opposed to most users of computers, who prefer to learn only the minimum amount necessary. 2. One who programs enthusiastically, or who enjoys programming rather than just theorizing about programming. 3. A person capable of appreciating HACK VALUE. 4. A person who is good at programming quickly. (By the way, not everything a hacker produces is a hack.) 5. An expert on a particular program, or one who frequently does work using it or on it. Example: "A SAIL hacker." (This definition and the preceding ones are correlated, and people who fit them congregate.) 6. An expert of any kind. One might be an astronomy hacker, for example. 7. A malicious or inquisitive meddler who tries to discover information by poking around. For example, a "password hacker" is one who tries, possibly by deceptive or illegal means, to discover other people's computer passwords. A "network hacker" is one who tries to learn about the computer network (possibly because he wants to improve it or possibly because he wants to interfere -- one can tell the difference only by context and tone of voice. Note that only one of the seven definitions fits people like the '414s'. The other definitions more closely fit the meaning of the word "hacker" as it is used in the Carnegie-Mellon, Stanford, and MIT computer science departments. It's a shame that the media have equated "hackers" with "crackers" and pirates. Please don't help to perpetuate this misuse! -- Thomas Newton Thomas.Newton@cmu-cs-spice.ARPA