Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version VT1.00C 11/1/84; site vortex.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!mhuxr!mhuxt!houxm!vax135!cornell!uw-beaver!tektronix!zehntel!dual!lll-crg!gymble!umcp-cs!seismo!harvard!godot!mit-eddie!genrad!decvax!vortex!lauren From: lauren@vortex.UUCP (Lauren Weinstein) Newsgroups: net.misc Subject: Re: Milgram's Experiments on Obedience Message-ID: <614@vortex.UUCP> Date: Mon, 25-Mar-85 17:13:45 EST Article-I.D.: vortex.614 Posted: Mon Mar 25 17:13:45 1985 Date-Received: Fri, 29-Mar-85 01:42:20 EST References: <823@uwmacc.UUCP> Organization: Vortex Technology, Los Angeles Lines: 24 In my undergraduate days at UCLA, I used to volunteer occasionally as a subject in some of the various experiments that the psychology department would be performing (I needed the money, and they paid fairly well [comparatively] for an hour's work). I once found myself in a version of the exact experiment being discussed. In this case, I was supposed to go through the "shock" routine before and after seeing a rather poor "stag film" to see how it affected my aggressiveness at the shock board. Unfortunately for the experimenter, I immediately recognized the experiment and decided to have some fun. I kept the shock levels very low during the initial run, then BLASTED the thing (level 10, or whatever it was) after the film. The experimenter was really impressed. At the end, I admitted to him that I knew how the whole experiment worked and had been playing with them. I didn't want them to screw up their statistical database by treating my results as "real." They were rather upset and amused at the same time. This sort of situation is always a risk if the experimental subject figures out what's really going on in these experiments. But in many cases, they probably never admit that they haven't been making "real" responses. --Lauren--