Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.1 6/24/83; site decwrl.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!mhuxr!mhuxt!houxm!whuxl!whuxlm!akgua!sdcsvax!dcdwest!ittvax!decvax!decwrl!dec-rhea!dec-raja!merrill From: merrill@raja.DEC (Rick) Newsgroups: net.physics Subject: KS Perpetual Motion Machine Message-ID: <1264@decwrl.UUCP> Date: Mon, 25-Mar-85 19:22:24 EST Article-I.D.: decwrl.1264 Posted: Mon Mar 25 19:22:24 1985 Date-Received: Sat, 30-Mar-85 00:28:47 EST Sender: daemon@decwrl.UUCP Organization: DEC Engineering Network Lines: 52 The Kappa Sigma Perpetual Motion Machine Ground rules Now that a team of six critical volunteers has been identified (you know who you are) here is the description. But first two ground rules: Please keep all replies to net.phisics [let's keep this out of net.religion:-)] and please, no arcane formula - use English, ok? Description Consider an unfinished tower at the edge of a river. Hydrolysis is performed continuously on some water from the river and the subsequent oxygen and hydrogen gasses are stored in balloons, which being lighter than air rise to the top of the tower where the balloons are burst and a spark ignites the gasses which combine into water. The water is permitted to fall through a vacuum tube into a turbine which generates twenty percent more electricity than is needed to operate the aforementioned operations. Theory Gravity works for us in two directions. First by creating a pressure gradient in the atmosphere that gives hydrogen and oxygen negative potential energy and secondly by giving water positive potential energy. Discussion The fraternity economist stalks out declaring the payback period is too long. The chemist declares that products of hydrolysis do not balance and that the combustion is incomplete. The skydiver begins mumbling about "terminal velocity ... vacuum ?" The EE asserts that no turbine can possibly be made to the required efficiency. The Natural Sciences major begins to rant about upsetting the ecology of the river, and the MBA wants to know who's vice president of the whole operation! Rebuttal For every energy loss, for any inefficiency, for each diminished return there is but one response: . . . . . BUILD THE TOWER HIGHER !