Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/18/84; site topaz.ARPA Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!cbosgd!cbdkc1!desoto!packard!topaz!josh From: josh@topaz.ARPA (J Storrs Hall) Newsgroups: net.politics.theory Subject: Re: Re: Libertarianism as ideology Message-ID: <1065@topaz.ARPA> Date: Thu, 28-Mar-85 17:06:36 EST Article-I.D.: topaz.1065 Posted: Thu Mar 28 17:06:36 1985 Date-Received: Fri, 29-Mar-85 01:51:15 EST References: <1467@dciem.UUCP> <834@ucbtopaz.CC.Berkeley.ARPA> <1024@topaz.ARPA> <518@digi-g.UUCP> Reply-To: josh@topaz.UUCP (J Storrs Hall) Organization: Rutgers Univ., New Brunswick, N.J. Lines: 32 Summary: In article <518@digi-g.UUCP> brian@digi-g.UUCP (brian) writes: >In article <1024@topaz.ARPA> josh@topaz.ARPA (J Storrs Hall) writes: >>...Example: I have a collection of transistors, capacitors, and so forth, >>on the table in front of me. I can describe it in terms of each component >>and its relationship to each of the others; or I can describe it as a >>radio.... >> >>--JoSH > >This from someone who describes ANY society that kills > 10,000,000 of >it's own people as socialist?? (Gee, I guess any group < 10,000,000 CAN'T >be socialist). I guess he calls any collection of transistors, capacitors, >etc, a radio, too. (I am currently typing on a TeleVideo Radio). >B'goSH, JoSH, your arguments would be more convincing if you used proper >definitions, instead of just making it up as you go along... > >Merlyn Leroy To anyone other than the ingenuous Mr. Leroy, my saying that I can describe a collection of components as a radio is tantamount to an assertion that it is a radio (and not, for example, a terminal). Furthermore, Mr Leroy has misquoted me, and emphasised the very word which makes his attribution a lie: I said that if a nation kills 10M of its people *there is a good chance* it's socialist. Whatever the actual flaws of the contention (dealing mostly with the definition of "socialist"), nothing at all is said about nations which do not kill 10M. It's as if I had said, "any place north of Juneau, Alaska is cold in January" and Mr Leroy had replied "Gee, I guess Bangor, Maine CAN'T be cold in January". --JoSH