Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.1 6/24/83; site ut-ngp.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!mhuxr!ihnp4!houxm!whuxl!whuxlm!harpo!decvax!genrad!panda!talcott!harvard!seismo!ut-sally!ut-ngp!kjm From: kjm@ut-ngp.UUCP (Ken Montgomery) Newsgroups: net.politics.theory Subject: Re: A Paradise. Message-ID: <1554@ut-ngp.UUCP> Date: Wed, 3-Apr-85 13:57:00 EST Article-I.D.: ut-ngp.1554 Posted: Wed Apr 3 13:57:00 1985 Date-Received: Fri, 5-Apr-85 04:29:28 EST Distribution: net Organization: U.Texas Computation Center, Austin, Texas Lines: 61 [] From: ncg@ukc.UUCP (N.C.Gale) >There is a green Vale in Nepal... >The population can't be more than a couple of hundred. > >The people are divided into two groups: the workers (mostly farmers), >and the priesthood of the monastary. > >The first son of every family is sent to the monastary to become a >priest. What if he doesn't want to be a priest? > The monastary receives all its provisions from the rest of >the population (they have had surplus crops every year for centuries). >The monks are all celebate - as a consequence, the population of the vale >remains approximately constant. What if a first son doesn't want to be celibate either? >No government exists except for a marginal social ordering. > >There is no television, no radios, and none are wanted because > A) They are very expensive > B) No one knows what they are for/like > >No increase in living standard has been recorded for centuries. > >No oprtunity exists for advancement, so nobody 'succeeds' or 'fails'. Why do you equate success with advancement? >The Vale is so isolated from the outside world as to be almost immune >to change. This means that they receive none of the benefits of >organised government, or competition in the free market. > >Is this idyllic, or what? No, it sounds profoundly boring, and somewhat authoritarian as well. >I can't draw any profound conclusions from the existance of such a >society. It's nice to ponder, though. Maybe it has something to >do with Buddhism - 'elimination of desire'. Do the Buddists eliminate the desire to continue living, too? >Nice place to retire to. Boring. (I'm a first son. I've no desire to be either a priest or celibate, or to live without modern technology.) >-Nigel Gale -- The above viewpoints are mine. They are unrelated to those of anyone else, including my cats and my employer. Ken Montgomery "Shredder-of-hapless-smurfs" ...!{ihnp4,allegra,seismo!ut-sally}!ut-ngp!kjm [Usenet, when working] kjm@ut-ngp.ARPA [for Arpanauts only]