Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Path: utzoo!laura From: laura@utzoo.UUCP (Laura Creighton) Newsgroups: net.politics.theory Subject: Re: Turkey in the Straw Message-ID: <5440@utzoo.UUCP> Date: Mon, 8-Apr-85 06:18:41 EST Article-I.D.: utzoo.5440 Posted: Mon Apr 8 06:18:41 1985 Date-Received: Mon, 8-Apr-85 06:18:41 EST References: <568@whuxl.UUCP> <382@talcott.UUCP>, <761@ccice5.UUCP> Organization: U of Toronto Zoology Lines: 25 I am not clear where you got the notion that libertarianism is connected to ``might makes right'', unless it is that libertarians are rather quick to tell you that they will protect their property rights. Instead libertarians of all sorts think that certain human rights are sacred, which seems counter to the ``might makes right'' philosophy. There is some disagreement as to what these rights are, and there is some disagreement as to how best to see that these rights are respected, and there is disagreement as to whom should have these rights (no, no, not whether Blacks or Jews or some race should have them but -- what about tourists in libertaria? and children?) but I haven't seen any disagreement that there *are* rights. Where did you get this strange notion about libertarianism? Have I been sloppy? By the way, I am about hald done writing a huge ``magnum opus'' :-) which explains (for once and for all :-) ) where morals and rights come from. A fairly large proportion of libertarians will be in agreement with this statement (with a lot of quibbles. Libertarians love to quibble.) It plunks me quite solidly in the ``might does not make right'' camp. I will post this soon -- I think that it may be another ``life, the universe and everything explained -- in 7 parts''. Laura Creighton utzoo!laura