Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/18/84; site ucla-cs.ARPA Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!bonnie!akgua!whuxlm!harpo!decvax!ittvax!dcdwest!sdcsvax!sdcrdcf!trwrb!trwrba!cepu!ucla-cs!srt From: srt@ucla-cs.UUCP Newsgroups: net.sf-lovers Subject: To Reign in Hell (Stephen Brust) Message-ID: <4628@ucla-cs.ARPA> Date: Tue, 2-Apr-85 15:01:37 EST Article-I.D.: ucla-cs.4628 Posted: Tue Apr 2 15:01:37 1985 Date-Received: Thu, 4-Apr-85 08:00:47 EST Reply-To: srt@ucla-cs.UUCP (Scott Turner) Organization: UCLA Computer Science Department Lines: 60 Summary: Just finished reading this book, which I don't think I would have normally picked up, but since the author is a net type person... The book concerns a struggle in Heaven, between the various of the Heavenly Host. The premise is to show how events like the fall of Satan, etc., might have actually happened quite differently, but still have given rise to the standard interpretation. The problem with writing this sort of a book is that the author has started off by placing severe limitations upon himself. First of all, he has to write a story that supports the standard interpretation of the struggle in heaven. Secondly, he has to craft the story so that the reader is left with an entirely different viewpoint about what happened. Third, within this framework he has to write a story. Brust handles the first two points nicely. I'm not well read on the various myths about the fall of Satan, etc., but the story fit in well with what I do know. The story also left me with a new view on the fall of Satan, so it succeeded on the second point as well. However, the story fails (somewhat) on the third point. I'm of the opinion that a story must be personal in order to succeed. That is, even if you intend to tell the story of some sweeping historical change, you must show how that change has some personal effect on someone. LOTR does this admirably. Although the story is, on one level, a struggle between good and evil, it succeeds because it shows how this struggle is reflected in the life of Frodo. To Reign In Hell doesn't do this. If you've read the book, ask yourself who the main character is. Satan? Well, much of the action does revolve around Satan, but he isn't (strangely) central to the story. In fact, the story doesn't have a main character, and that, I think, is its major failing. By not having a personal side, and by not showing a great deal of character development, etc., TRIH fails to be a complete story. On to some unrelated comments. I found two ideas in TRIH to be fairly fascinating. First, there is the idea that the angels were at some time ignorant of morality. This idea is only hinted at and then abandoned. The hint is when they question whether or not they have the right to force other angels to do something. At first they seem surprised by the question (and, indeed, Michael never does see the point), but the issue is never fully developed, and there are plenty of actions by angels that contradict this premise (i.e, Abdiel worries about what he is doing, Jaweh feels love, etc.). Still, this is a fascinating idea. Suppose you had a world full of creatures who had no morality at all. What would they (and their society) be like? The second idea is the implication that Jesus Christ was the SECOND coming, and not the first. I'm not sure if Brust intended this or not, but it occurred to me while reading the book, and I found it to be an interesting idea. I'm not sure how this can be used in a story, but it makes a fascinating premise. -- Scott Turner