Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/5/84; site randvax.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!allegra!bellcore!decvax!ittvax!dcdwest!sdcsvax!sdcrdcf!randvax!edhall From: edhall@randvax.UUCP (Ed Hall) Newsgroups: net.women Subject: Re: A Small Victory; Not at All Message-ID: <2376@randvax.UUCP> Date: Tue, 2-Apr-85 02:05:54 EST Article-I.D.: randvax.2376 Posted: Tue Apr 2 02:05:54 1985 Date-Received: Fri, 5-Apr-85 02:58:38 EST References: <824@druxo.UUCP> <269@mhuxr.UUCP> <2349@randvax.UUCP> <277@mhuxr.UUCP> <237@h-sc1.UUCP> Organization: Rand Corp., Santa Monica Lines: 57 > > > Ed Hall: > > > Ambiguity in language is *essential*--it allows us to point to those > > > elements of a statement which are important, and discard those which > > > are not. As a tool of our thoughts, it influences how we form concepts, > > > and as the chief instrument of our social learning, it influences the > > > very structure of our society. > > Say what!!!! Ambiguous language does precisely the opposite. It prevents > > those with whom one communicates from understanding the important points of > > the communication, surely the opposite of the communicator's intentions. > > Unless one communicates with the intent of deceiving or otherwise not > > being understood, one should strive for as little ambiguity as possible > > (unless of course, one is a diplomat :-) > > > I think the original poster meant "generality", not ambiguity. The use of > "they" promotes generality. It also promotes ambiguity slightly, but I think > the trade is worth it. > Dave Harmon I meant ``ambiguity'', as a *means* of indicating ``generality''. You're right, so far as the implications of what I said, but I felt it important to point out that AMBIGUITY CONVEYS MEANING AS TO WHAT IS AND IS NOT IMPORTANT. Marcel seems to feel that ambiguity implies some failure of communication. Things are quite the contrary--by avoiding the superfluous specification of things that are not part of our message we communicate our intentions more precisely. This facet of natural language--the ability to clarify what is important by making what is *not* important ambiguous--is one of its most powerful features. (As an aside, I might mention that this is the source of many of the ``hard problems'' in the artificial ``understanding'' of natural language.) The ability to be selectively ambiguous permits language to be far more than an instrument of documentation. It allows language to be a tool of creativity, a force for change, both a molder of culture and a product of that culture. It allows innumerable shades of meaning, permits the generalizations from which many insights grow, and enables a process of self-renewal--the ``evolution'' of which Marcel speaks. I'm amazed at the arrogance some people have, speaking of language as if they were its master--as if they had somehow invented it. The fact is, they'd be capable of little more than stone-age grunts and sighs, and little of what we'd consider ``thought'', if they hadn't been given the product of thousands of years worth of humankind's cognition--their language. How much of that entity we call ``society'' is language? I guess its full signifigance is better expressed in the negative: take away those parts of it which involve language as their chief agent, and how much ``society'' is left? Damn little. Now do you see how the ``insignifigant'' neglect of half of the human species by that very force which is most peculiarly human, *is* so important? -Ed Hall decvax!randvax!edhall NOTE: For brevity, I've not completely addressed the point at issue-- the use of ``they'' as a singular pronoun. I will do so in my next posting.