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From: keithd@cadovax.UUCP (Keith Doyle)
Newsgroups: net.abortion
Subject: Re: The Moral Vacuum - a public school grad??
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Date: Mon, 15-Apr-85 13:43:13 EST
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Posted: Mon Apr 15 13:43:13 1985
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>The above dialog is VERY interesting.  The reposter directly above believes
>we must all obey the LAW even if we hold to other moral views.  The LAW is
>the final court of appeal - not conscience!!
 
Then I would ask you what are laws for?  If we all can decide to ignore laws
because we don't agree with them, they are useless.  (do you propose that
laws are useless? )  Conscience can say some pretty strange things to 
some people.

>Never mind that this kind of thinking stands against yonks of moral philosophy
>throughout the history of mankind, or that it displays a child-like 'faith' in
>the rightness of the LAW and complete ignorance of how it is formulated or
>what it is based on.
                             
There are laws, and there are laws.  Most of the laws in this country were
arrived at through public opinion and majority voting.  We are living in
a democracy you know.

>HE APPEARS NEVER TO HAVE HEARD OF 'UNJUST' LAWS, EITHER TODAY OR IN THE PAST
>(SUCH AS THE AMERICAN DEC. OF INDP.)
 
Certainly some laws are unjust.  If I were a woman, and felt that laws 
prohibiting abortions were unjust, does that mean I should just go out
and have one anyway?  What about laws prohibiting child abuse? Murder?
Do you draw a line, and if so, where?  Wouldn't it be better if we worked
to change unjust law?

>According to him, all a dictator has to do is pass a LAW that the LAW can
>no longer be changed or resisted and hey presto!  Captive nation.
 
What dictator?  As I said above, we are living in a democracy.  When a
dictator takes over the U.S. THEN we can talk about ignoring his laws.

>WHAT THE HECK WERE WWII AND THE WAR CRIMES TRIALS ALL ABOUT????  
>              
>Remember, "I was just following orders.", is not a defense!!!!!
 
Neither is "I don't agree with the laws".

>Regards indeed,
> 
>Ken Arndt

Keith Doyle
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