Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/18/84; site islenet.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!bonnie!akgua!sdcsvax!noscvax!uhpgvax!islenet!bob From: bob@islenet.UUCP (Robert P. Cunningham) Newsgroups: net.astro Subject: Re: StarDate: April 5 Spring Tides Message-ID: <1054@islenet.UUCP> Date: Wed, 10-Apr-85 16:15:19 EST Article-I.D.: islenet.1054 Posted: Wed Apr 10 16:15:19 1985 Date-Received: Sun, 14-Apr-85 02:09:15 EST References: <43@utastro.UUCP> <24204@lanl.ARPA> Organization: Hawaii Institute of Geophysics Lines: 38 > Am I missing something? If, as described above, the earth, moon and > sun are in a line with earth in the middle, won't the gravitational > fields of moon and sun subtract rather than add? Tidal forces are the resultant difference between gravitational attraction and centrifugal forces. At the surface of the Earth, around the point directly underneath the Moon, the gravitational attraction is stronger. The net effect is to create a bulge pointing towards the Moon. At the antipode, on the other side from the Moon, centrifugal forces are stronger than the Moon's gravitational pull. The net effect is to create another bulge, pointing away from the Moon. [yes, this seems counter-intuitive] Thus, you get a bulges (high tides) point both towards and away from the Moon. This is the major tide cycle, with a period of 1/2 a lunar day (12 hours, 25.235 minutes). The tidal potential due to the Sun creates two similar bulges and a tidal cycle of 1/2 the solar day. When these are in line (both Sun & Moon on the same side of the Earth, or on opposite sides), that's when the highest tides occur. Important secondary effects influencing the tidal forces involve the relative declinations of the Sun & Moon, and the actual current distance of the Moon from Earth. The actual resultant rise (or fall) in sea level depends greatly on the local configuration of the ocean basin and shoreline configuration. And, of course, there are tidal effects in the Earth's mantle and atmosphere, not just the oceans. In fact, there are measurable tidal effects even in various lakes. -- Bob Cunningham ..{dual,ihnp4,vortex}!islenet!bob Honolulu, Hawaii