Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.1 6/24/83; site moncol.UUCP Path: utzoo!linus!philabs!cmcl2!seismo!harvard!talcott!panda!genrad!decvax!bellcore!allegra!ulysses!mhuxr!mhuxt!houxm!vax135!petsd!moncol!ben From: ben@moncol.UUCP (Bennett Broder) Newsgroups: net.audio Subject: Re: A-B CD comments Message-ID: <260@moncol.UUCP> Date: Sun, 21-Apr-85 18:17:19 EST Article-I.D.: moncol.260 Posted: Sun Apr 21 18:17:19 1985 Date-Received: Fri, 26-Apr-85 20:38:23 EST References: <140@omen.UUCP> Organization: Monmouth College, West Long Branch, NJ 07764 Lines: 43 >)i don't remember the type of headphones being posted in the original >)article. about the only pair of headphones that i am sure almost no-one >)will dispute as a reference set are stax pro's. having the good fortune >)to know someone who owns a pair, i use them when i can. >) >)Herb Chong... > >They were comparing CD players, not speakers or phones! Unless both the >speakers and phones used block out the same portions of the audio spectrum, >the DIFFERENCES should have still been audible unless all the listeners >were total tin ears (seems unlikely) or the cat was meowing too loudly. Wrong. The problem with using the BOSE speakers is not one of frequency response. In fact, it would be foolish to compare CD players on the basis of frequency response because they are all so good in this regard. The primary differences in the sonic performance between various models is caused by phase anomolies introduced when filtering out aliases and smoothing the signal. Less successful designs manifest themselves in a couple of ways: 1. A harshness or hardness to the trebles, particularly noticable on female vocals and violin strings. 2. A loss of precise and stable instrument positions in the stereo image. The BOSE tends to be very forgiving of suboptimal sources, and might lack the resolution to differentiate between the players. More importantly, the quality of the stereo image cannot be judged with any pair of headphones, and is all but impossible to judge with a direct reflecting loudpeaker like the BOSE 901. Of course, the original poster of the comparison did not claim to be providing a definitive review of the players, rather to report the results of an informal comparison. Readers with top quality audiophile equipment might prefer to perform the comparison themselves or to rely on a review done by a professional reviewer using reference quality components. Ben Broder ..ihnp4!princeton!moncol!ben ..vax135!petsd!moncol!ben ..pesnta!moncol!ben