Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: notesfiles Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!mhuxr!mhuxt!houxm!whuxl!whuxlm!harpo!decvax!ittvax!dcdwest!sdcsvax!sdcrdcf!hplabs!hp-pcd!hpfcmt!ron From: ron@hpfcmt.UUCP (ron) Newsgroups: net.aviation Subject: Re: Eyeballing the Runway Message-ID: <16900004@hpfcmt.UUCP> Date: Mon, 8-Apr-85 11:48:00 EST Article-I.D.: hpfcmt.16900004 Posted: Mon Apr 8 11:48:00 1985 Date-Received: Thu, 18-Apr-85 02:36:03 EST References: <1075@phoenix.UUCP> Lines: 32 Nf-ID: #R:phoenix:-107500:hpfcmt:16900004:000:1434 Nf-From: hpfcmt!ron Apr 3 08:48:00 1985 Re: Look Where ? Transitioning from sailplanes (landed in level flight attitude well above stall speed) to airplanes (landed nose high at full stall) showed this CFI-G some things about where to look. My summary is this: Use what is available (which depends upon the airplane.) A C-152 has a little short nose which can be seen over even during the flare. A C-182 has a longer nose and a lower seating height so that if you look over the nose in the flare all you will see is cowling and sky. In the 182 case I find that I look down the runway until the nose comes up too far for that and then I use the side windows to confirm that things are going as planned. The time where you can't see down the runway isn't real long but is very important that you have some reference of some kind to ensure that you are getting the desired results. Note also that different pilots do things differently, not always for definable reasons. If you have thought thru all the possible conditions where your technique might get you in trouble and can find no alternate technique which might work better then your technique should be defendable. With more experience (and practice) you will develop more techniques and use the ones that work the best for the situation. (ie Where does the Pitts pilot look to find the ground for landing or otherwise ?) Ron Miller CFI-G H-P Ft. Collins Systems Div. Ft. Collins Colo. At: ... hpfcla!ron-m