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Subject: Do those with monkey brains deserve to be eaten?!
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Date: Tue, 23-Apr-85 11:45:14 EST
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Posted: Tue Apr 23 11:45:14 1985
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Ahhhhh.  Ken Perlow you little rascal you.

[You posted]
Let's see... If Ken Arndt fell under the table, would he make a sound?
Would it be spelled correctly?

              **** The more important question, "Would you step on him?"
or would you wonder what I was doing under there.  Reloading?

[You again]
You asked once before where morals came from, you lovable Leo Buscaglia
clone you, but all you do is snipe at poor souls (and rich Rosens)
while they agonize--or paint--over the delaminations in their moral
fiberglass.  You give the distinct impression that the acid test of
a morality (amorality?) is in its answers.

              **** Ahhhh low blow.  Leo Buscaglia!!  That twerp!  He's
the one person that makes me want to hurt people.  Rather just hurt
him.  Because it would feel good.  I want to throw up every time I
fail to learn my lesson and listen to him for a few minutes.  In a nasty
brutal world - you know, ours - he disarms the will to resist with his
pap!  Does anyone for one moment think he can stand like the Pope before
the Hunnish hordes and stop them from sacking Rome?  With that drivel?
Here's what he's up against!

       "I believe you have got your ideas of the new age somewhat
        confused, Marschall.  Germany is no longer imperial Germany.
        We are a national-socialist state.  We shrink from nothing
        in order to reach our goal."

       "The Fuhrer wishes this damned question of the Jews solved.
        I personally do not sympathise with all his political ideas,
        but I am a soldier and have taken an oath of loyality just
        as you have.  If I am given an order, I obey it to the letter.
        I love children, especially babies, but if tomorrow I receive
        an order to kill all children under two in Europe, they will
        be killed without consideration for my personal feelings, and
        any of my subordinates who do not obey my orders exactly will
        be court martialled."
                THE BEAST REGIMENT,Sven Hassel,Bantam books, '73,p127.
                  (Hassel, a member of the SS during the war, has
                   written several very interesting books - in novel
                   form - about his life during the war in a 
                   SS punishment regiment, on the Russian front and
                   elsewhere.  Interesting eye witness accounts!)

          Tell me Ken, what would 'Uncle Leo' say to the speaker above?

[You post]
Well that's boring.  No moral code worth its pillar of salt is lacking
vast cracks and crevasses.  I'll go further than that--a moral code with
easy answers to hard questions is at least suspect, if not downright
dangerous.  Good questions should be savored, like good wine.  Or are
you intimating that the proof of the pudding (simian or otherwise) is
in the eating?  If so, please pass the salt.

          ****  Craks and crev's indeed.  All you are saying is that we
appear not to have infinite knowledge . . . yawn.  Only the dumb don't 
seem to know that yet - and those still living before 1700.

                Can't crack the cant, eh?  "Easy answers to hard questions,
etc."  "Cracks and Crevasses, pillar of salt, good wine, pudding, simian,
ye gads, Ken.  Change your supplier.  

                Look, and here's the 'meat' (sorry) of my reply, what IS
the difference between a man and a monkey?  Eat one and not the other???
Why?  As one person, bless you, so aptly put it - have I (with the monkey
brain piece) offended your morals or only your sensibilities????  If your
morals, then WHAT morals are those??

[You finish]
OK, OK--you really want an answer (yawn, indeed)?  The answer is:
Because monkey brains have fewer calories! (Less filling! Tastes great!)

          ****  How thrilling of you (please, you know I'm yor buddy)
to sidestep so fatuously what may be the major moral/political issue
of our time - as we so languorously slide, to the beat of the beat,
into a new 'dark ages' in the West.  (The queston being, for those who
have been on vacation in Upper Volta for the last 20 years, WHAT IS MAN?)

                Picture yourself in the monkey's place before a hungry
crowd of 'moderns'.  With the few moments left to you, what would you say
to them to get them to eat something else???   THAT'S THE REAL QUESTION,EH?
Of course . . . that could never happen . . . right?  I mean surely there
are REASONS why we would never accept eating of human flesh.  Wouldn't the
Supremeo Court protect us???  Er, what if someone WANTED to be eaten?  Remember
my friend?  Or we started with those who had died a few moments before of
natural causes.  I mean some peoples DO eat their fellow man.  The mean ole
Christian missionaries and the naughty Colonial powers - thank goodness they're
gone now - forbade them to practice their religion and their culture!!!
Doesn't appear to be 'unnatural' if some groups are already doing it, wouldn't
you say?  Wouldn't it be 'funny' to wake up one morning an old man in a
culture in which your grandchildren ate human flesh.  Of course out of
feelings for your 'old time', 'traditional' views they'd no doubt keep the
'hand sandwiches' in the frig when you came over to lunch.

                Sensibilities or Morality?  What have I offended?  
                        If anything.

Keep chargin'

Ken Arndt