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From: ec120bgt@sdcc3.UUCP (ANDREW VARE)
Newsgroups: net.auto,net.flame,net.kids,net.singles
Subject: Re: Seat belts
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Date: Tue, 23-Apr-85 16:30:13 EST
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> 
> "We're preparing for takeoff; please fasten your barf bags."
> 

PLEASE NOTE the content here, and its relvance to net.singles!
Doesn't this heart rendering story kind of remind you of "Gone
with the Wind"?
If modern authors addressed today's problems with the forthrightness
and responsibilty we see here, the world would be a better place.


> 	*********************************************
> 
> Consensus:
> 
> 	1.  People who don't wear seat belts are chumps
> 	2.  There are SOME occasions/circumstances where
> 	    not wearing your belt can harm (perhaps indirectly)
> 	    others
> 
> The real point, I feel, is not being addressed here.  Regardless
> of whether or not the government should be passing a law infringing
> on personal rights, does it make any sense for the government
> to pass questionable laws THAT MOST LIKELY WILL RESULT IN LITTLE OR
> NO CHANGE?  An idiot who refuses to wear a belt is not going to
> start just because there's a CHANCE some day he may be stopped for
> SOME OTHER OFFENSE and be fined $20.
> 
> Alcohol abuse is clearly a problem for both the individual AND society
> (even completely disregarding drunk driving); did Prohibition change
> anything? (Other than perhaps the QUALITY of liquor drank?)
>

Prohibition delta'd the way we treated a problem-from non-recognition
to simple treatment of the problem's symptoms. Finally we see that in
order to change a social norm, one must address the incentive that
drives that norm-namely the need for someone to drink. Our society
still hasn't addressed that incentive in a robust fashion, Sure we
have AA, but you have to be an alcoholic first in order to derive
much personal meaning from observation there. Certainly the man off the
streets who has kids wont take them to an AA meeting and say "look at
these people-do you want to wind up like them?" When in fact the people 
would look quite ordinary to the kids, and besides, dad pours a stiff one
after work once and awhile..............................
My point is perhaps a reiteration of Andrew Young's comment after
leaving the UN "nothing ever changes in this country unless it's
from the grass roots up".  
> 
>        YOU CANNOT LEGISLATE STUPIDITY OUT OF THE POPULATION!!!
> 
> 
> 			Scott J. Berry
> 			...!homxb!disc

*** MISPLACE THIS WINE WITH YOUR MASSAGE ***

WHEN THE NETTIES GET LEGALIZED OUT OF STUPIDITY, THE WEIRD TURN PRO

                        A. Townsend Vare 
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