Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/18/84; site faron.UUCP Path: utzoo!linus!faron!sidney From: sidney@faron.UUCP (Sidney Markowitz) Newsgroups: net.kids Subject: Re: Thumb-sucking .... Message-ID: <286@faron.UUCP> Date: Sun, 14-Apr-85 10:07:46 EST Article-I.D.: faron.286 Posted: Sun Apr 14 10:07:46 1985 Date-Received: Mon, 15-Apr-85 04:39:05 EST References: <1524@decwrl.UUCP> <273@faron.UUCP> <1327@shark.UUCP> Reply-To: sidney@faron.UUCP (Sidney Markowitz) Organization: The MITRE Corporation, Bedford, MA Lines: 41 In article <1327@shark.UUCP> charliem@shark.UUCP (Charlie Mills) writes: >In article <273@faron.UUCP> sidney@faron.UUCP (Sidney Markowitz) writes: >>In <1524@decwrl.UUCP> faucher@futbal.DEC (Cathy Faucher 381-2207) writes: >>>Any suggestions on how to wean a 3 1/2 from >>>sucking his thumb ??? >> >>... You can set up what is >>called a "double bind" in which the child can either do what you say, which >>is what the child claims to want, except even more, or else rebel and stop >>the originally rebellious behavior... > >How can anyone think thumb-sucking is rebellious behaviour? Clearly it >stems from a need to suck or a need for the security associated with sucking. >How can a need for security be construed as rebellious? > Thumb sucking in itself is not rebellious behavior. Thumb sucking when the parent is trying to get the child to stop may be rebellious behavior. I should point out that I replied to the theoretical question of influencing a child to modify habits, and didn't notice the age of the child in question. The other answers of the form "don't worry about it, the child will probably stop when he goes to school, if not before" are probably more accurate. Another aspect of the therapeutic double bind is that it tends to put behavior that was considered rebellious in a more positive frame. When what is going on is a contest of power between parent and child, then innocent thumb-sucking may be perceived by one or both as "rebellious". When the parent is advised to actively encourage thumb-sucking, then 1) it can no longer be perceived that way ; and 2) if the child does assert his independence by not sucking his thumb, then that is not perceived as "rebellious" either. So I am agreeing with you completely. -- Sidney Markowitz ARPA: sidney@mitre-bedford UUCP: ...{allegra,decvax,genrad,ihnp4,philabs,security,utzoo}!linus!sidney