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From: friesen@psivax.UUCP (Stanley Friesen)
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Subject: Re: ADA
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Date: Thu, 18-Apr-85 13:36:29 EST
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In article <151@anwar.UUCP> jos@anwar.UUCP (John Schneider) writes:
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>After reading reviews on ADA like the above, it seems to me that all of
>them have negative attitudes. I have yet to read any comments that address 
>the real issues behind ADA. The authors of these reviews would probably
>benefit from reading a book on object oriented programming. The real issue
>behind ADA is that it supports a static implementation of object oriented
>programming for general von Neumann architectures, not that the DoD has 
>mandated its use. (Other such languages are Modula II, Mainsail and Smalltalk).
>It is clear that ADA can support a highly abstract method of software 
>implementation, while is is not so clear that other common block-structured
>languages do more than offer data-structuring and simple run-time and type
>checks.

	Ah, but I do not object to an object oriented language
as such, *if* it has a reasonable implementation of the concept.
My objection to Ada is *not* its object-orientation, it is its
implimentation. It is an overly verbose, over-featured, kitchen-sink
language. In fact it has all the *worst* features of PL/I and Cobol.
Modula II is better, in fact almost livable, if it were not
quite so much like an enhanced Pascal(tho it does address most of my
objections to Pascal). I have not yet had a chance to really look at
Smalltalk-80, it might have the flexibility and simplicity I want in
a language.  Where do I get a book on Mainsail, I have never seen any?
-- 

				Sarima (Stanley Friesen)

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