Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/18/84; site fortune.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!mhuxr!ihnp4!fortune!polard From: polard@fortune.UUCP (Henry Polard) Newsgroups: net.nlang Subject: Re: retronyms Message-ID: <5192@fortune.UUCP> Date: Tue, 16-Apr-85 11:24:13 EST Article-I.D.: fortune.5192 Posted: Tue Apr 16 11:24:13 1985 Date-Received: Wed, 17-Apr-85 01:38:14 EST References: <1613@decwrl.UUCP> Reply-To: polard@fortune.UUCP (Henry polard) Organization: Fortune Systems, Redwood City, CA Lines: 17 Summary: In article <1613@decwrl.UUCP> chabot@miles.DEC (L S Chabot) writes: >How about gender-designators, like "male secretary"? > >(-: No comments about how the first programmer was a Lady! :-) I read somewhere that until about 100 years ago secretaries were male, and that there was a great hue and cry when women entered the field. It seems that when we expect something to have a certain quality that quality is not verbalized- it is "unmarked". Qualities seem to be verbalized only when they are not expected, such as a female secretary 100 years ago and a male secretary today. -- Henry Polard (You bring the flames - I'll bring the marshmallows.) {ihnp4,cbosgd,amd}!fortune!polard N.B: The words in this posting do not necessarily express the opinions of me, my employer, or any AI project.