Relay-Version: version B 2.10 5/3/83; site utzoo.UUCP Posting-Version: version B 2.10.2 9/5/84; site wucs.UUCP Path: utzoo!watmath!clyde!burl!ulysses!mhuxr!ihnp4!wucs!esk From: esk@wucs.UUCP (Paul V. Torek) Newsgroups: net.philosophy Subject: why Laura can't have gone wrong Message-ID: <903@wucs.UUCP> Date: Thu, 18-Apr-85 18:28:25 EST Article-I.D.: wucs.903 Posted: Thu Apr 18 18:28:25 1985 Date-Received: Fri, 19-Apr-85 01:37:59 EST Reply-To: pvt1047@wucec2.UUCP (Paul V. Torek) Organization: Washington U. in St. Louis, CS Dept. Lines: 20 [or, Subject: Re: freedom and reason (attn russ, rich, & laura)] Laura Creighton writes: > If I do not have free will then I cannot ``make a mistake'' [...] Rich Rosen responds: > All you've shown is that the word "mistake" may be a poor word. [...] > If by mistake you mean "an error in judgment resulting in negative > consequences",[...] Try "wrong judgement/decision" as the meaning of "mistake". To call a judgement/decision wrong is to imply that there was a right judgement/ decision that one could have made. And to say that one ought to avoid error is to say that one *can* avoid error: "ought" implies "can". Now suppose Laura believes she is free. Could it be that she ought to have believed the opposite? No: her belief is either true or false. If false, then she *couldn't* have come to the true conclusion (that she was not free). If true, then she believed what she ought. So her belief that she is free cannot be criticized (even if false). -- We're No. 2 -- we think harder. --Iconbusters, Inc.