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From: cramer@kontron.UUCP (Clayton Cramer)
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Subject: Re: The Shame of the President
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Date: Wed, 24-Apr-85 14:54:17 EST
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> 
> For the record,  here is the explanation given by
> the President of the United States, as to why he
> intends to visit the cemetery of 47 members of the
> Nazi SS and 2000 other Nazi soldiers:
> 
> "I think there is nothing wrong with visiting
> that cemetery where those young men are victims
> of Nazism also, even though they were fighting
> in the German uniform. They were victims just as surely
> as the victims in the concentration camps."
>           -President Reagan, NYTimes 4/19/85
> -------------------------------------------------
> 
>          If a Contra in Nicaragua can be a "freedom fighter",
> then why can't the Nazis be "victims"?  Welcome to the
> logic of the President of the United States!
>                        Andy Berman

Not all Germans were Nazis (although a lot more were than will now admit it!).
Many German soldiers were drafted; many were mislead to believe they were doing
something noble.  They gave their lives to defend Nazism; that makes them 
"victims" to me.

By the way, can we all stop using that misleading abbreviation "Nazi"?  It's
short for "National Socialist" in German, and a lot of modern day socialists
would like for people to forget what Hitler's economic policies were all about,
in the same way that they would like people to forget that "fascism" is 
Italian for "collectivism".  As much as you may like to pretend differently,
Hitler and Mussolini's movements were outgrowths of socialism.  They were
called "right wing" because the conservatives throughout Europe have tended
towards variations of socialism and collectivism.  "Right wing" in the American
tradition has NOTHING to do with the right wing traditions of Europe.